Jedi boro
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Ha ha seems like itThe way these things work is that only the bad results count! I thought everybody knew this.
Forget beating millwall last week
Ha ha seems like itThe way these things work is that only the bad results count! I thought everybody knew this.
They probably did.From 1996 till 2009 we were in the PL apart from one season, did everyone say we were a PL club?
No idea.Where were Brighton and Brentford in 2009 ??!
This is part of the perception problem. The playoffs make it seem like everyone has a chance which keeps the championship interesting but the reality is that the best teams get promoted. If you aren't good enough to challenge for the automatics then you probably aren't getting promoted.
There hasn't been a 6th place team promoted in the last 10 years. Can't even find when it was. There's only been 3 6th placed team that have even made the final.
This is why I am much less pleased than others on here by this season's performance. I don't see scraping into the playoffs as a good season. Last season we had a brief flirtation with the autos and we should have been building on that and not being content with "only being 3 points off the playoffs". We're 11/1 for promotion which suggests that from this position we'd expect to be promoted once every 12 years which is nothing to be excited about.
Where were Brighton and Brentford in 2009 ??!
Exactly so contrasting our placing in 2009 to somehow justify this odd view of our natural order is ludicrous.In the 08/09 season... Brighton finished 16th in League One. Brentford were promoted as champions of League Two.
Bournemouth finished 21st in League Two, and Luton got relegated, finishing bottom of League Two.
Like it roofieBeing promoted when the club isn't ready isn't a great idea.
We weren't properly ready after Karanka`s promotion and the last thing any Boro fan wants is to get promoted and be constantly humiliated, like Burnley, Luton, and Sheffield United.
Unless Steve Gibson finds a pot of gold at the end of the rainbow, we're having to rebuild from the ground up.
Football in England is now so skewed by foreign tyrants investment and hedge-funders that the league system is no longer doing what it was meant to do.
For me, the Premier League can go down to ten clubs who play each other four times each in a season and fly off to the moon.
Go to four Divisions, include three-up, three-down from the National League and start again.
Just a Sunday - morning breakfast time idea?
The mercenaries ( as that’s all they were) killed the team spirit that got us up.don’t agree that we weren’t ready back in AK days. I think we were but our recruitment was shambolic.
There were some odd signings that season, really really odd.The mercenaries ( as that’s all they were) killed the team spirit that got us up.
One of the biggest errors during AK tenure was ripping apart the promotion side. They had brilliant camaraderie which was destroyed. The January window was them a disaster for the club.I don’t agree that we weren’t ready back in AK days. I think we were but our recruitment was shambolic.
That January transfer window was huge. We signed Gestede, Bamford and Guediora. Our fate was as good as sealed from that moment. Karanka knew it too. He was pretty critical of the signings we brought in, and a few weeks later he was gone.
Off the field decisions for the next couple of years (in the transfer market and managerial) set us back years.
It now feels like Carrick has finally turned the boat around. I think we’ll be close this year but consistently dropping points against dross like Rotherham (albeit on the wrong end of a number of poor refereeing decisions) isn’t good enough.
Anything this season is a bonus. I reckon next season is the time - hopefully not giving the division 10 games head start too.
Don’t forget for all his moaning about the dross we did sign in jan karankas targets especially his obsession with Jesse and bojan would have been no better.There were some odd signings that season, really really odd.
Yes.The mercenaries ( as that’s all they were) killed the team spirit that got us up.
Clayton in b and q rememberOne of the biggest errors during AK tenure was ripping apart the promotion side. They had brilliant camaraderie which was destroyed. The January window was them a disaster for the club.
Don’t forget AgnewYes.
I think if everyone was given their time again things would have gone very differently. The club were obviously so desperate to be back in the big they threw money at players who weren't suitable to the team we'd built.
Karanka recognises his fault in the situation. His various strops broke trust with Gibson and he's since realised with other owners that he didn't know how good he had it.
I'd have happily taken a relegation with a similar team that got us up and then Karanka having another go in 2017/18. Instead everyone fell out and we ended up with Monk, Braithwaite and then Pulis.
In part, some of that sits with Karanka too. Some of the Spanish lads were simply not good enough and caused a huge split in the dressing room.There were some odd signings that season, really really odd.