bear66
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Some countries haven't had that number of deaths in total. 69 countries which have had coronavirus cases have had less deaths than that.
The 9am figures not disclosed yet?
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Randy
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Yes.
16 out of 53 million people who live in England is still a low amount.
bear66
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One country has no deaths in 93 million, although they're worrying because they had one new positive test yesterday.
hopesoboro
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Which country was that?
bear66
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Vietnam
SmallTown
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Or, to put it another way, a higher amount of deaths than EVERY SINGLE OTHER COUNTRY
hopesoboro
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Really? 16 out of 53 million?
Randy
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False.
But you already know that.
I know it's eating you up inside that we didn't have overflowing hospitals like Italy and Spain did. Or bodies littering the streets like Ecuador did. Or dead people kept in cold storage trucks like the USA allegedly did.
Hell if it wasn't for TV and radio would you even know there was a world ending pandemic happening?
Laughing
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This also confuses me, to be honest. I have no idea why hospital admissions are not going up. As you say perhaps we have now put a protective ring around our most vulnerable. If that is the case, better late than never.
SmallTown
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I apologise, Belgium have a worse deaths per thousand rate than us. They also record things differently and tend to put more deaths down to COVID.
I find it strange you're happy with having the second worst death rate in the entire world. Very very strange.
Alvez_48
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What?? Exactly like we do, you're absurd.
Anyone even attempting to compare nations at this point is utterly bonkers, there is no unified system.. there's no way even today of knowing the difference between of and with.
Have a go at explaining this ST:-
SmallTown
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Comparing nations is the ONLY way you can really see how well we've responded to what as a fairly unique situation. I have no idea why you and Randy are happy that our reposes has been so poor. Maybe you haven't been effected by the tens of thousands of deaths and so don't care? Says a lot about you really.
Alvez_48
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What do you think to the screenshot bro
Laughing
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To be fair Alvez I did some crappy analysis of that some time ago. At the time I was interested in things like suicide to see if there was a surge in those kind of deaths, due perhaps to lockdown.
I could only conclude, as I recall, that covid deaths were being under reported.
I do, of course, accept that our reporting, whilst considered good by other nations, is actually pretty poor, and the rest of the world are just worse
Alvez_48
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But the point is... The graph clearly shows we are over reporting
Laughing
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It doesn't Alvez, it shows that either:
We are under reporting, or
We are having a very good year on all other causes of death
The second one may be the case due to people dying a bit earlier than they would have otherwise, due to covid. I forget the name for the phenomena, but if you have a great year for flu, for example, more old people will die later on, who, in other years, would have died already from flu.
It's a morbid subject, and I am not trying to lessen the loss of a loved one. In my opinion, if we could have got someone even 6 months more life, then go for it.
We are under reporting, or
We are having a very good year on all other causes of death
The second one may be the case due to people dying a bit earlier than they would have otherwise, due to covid. I forget the name for the phenomena, but if you have a great year for flu, for example, more old people will die later on, who, in other years, would have died already from flu.
It's a morbid subject, and I am not trying to lessen the loss of a loved one. In my opinion, if we could have got someone even 6 months more life, then go for it.
SmallTown
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It doesn't clearly show that at all. I guess you're from the modern "fake news" world where, if you don't like a fact, it's easier to try and disprove it rather than address the issues it raises.
I'll ask again, why are you so calm about having the second worst number of covid death in the world? Each to their own, but I would be, and am, angry that so many of my countrymen are needlessly dying?
Randy
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You've said it yourself many times before whilst defending lockdowns that there is no cure, no treatment and it's brand new so of course thousands are going to die.
The 2018/2019 flu season killed more people with a vaccine than than this covid-19 season without a vaccine.
Nature is a cruel mistress. Unfortunately people die every day. Nobody lives forever. A new naturally occuring virus is of course going to kill many thousands of people, mostly elderly, frail or with pre existing conditions. Yes those 3 facts still far far far far outweigh those who are healthy who have died from it.
Unless of course you now think that the virus was man made in which case we need to find out who released it.
Alvez_48
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Laughing please explain to me how it shows we're under reporting on that graph?
Surely if we were underreporting you'd see deaths from OTHER causes increase as they weren't getting recorded as covid.
I take your second point as possible but in reality it's because we're over reporting