Fair enough.
Would you have VAR in the championship
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Fair enough.
I'm definitely not with that particular example!
I'd rather a slightly delayed and bemused celebration of a goal than to have just had it very quickly disallowed and watch us play out a 1 nil defeat.
Sheriff_John_Bunnell_ret
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Again that predicated on Boro not getting the rub of the green from the refs, which is just the bias that all fans feel. Which I think is a bit short sighted from Boro fans, our only ever trophy being the result of a goal that should not have stood.I'm definitely not with that particular example!
Nah come on. Never mind it being boro, can you honestly tell me you don't think home bias exists at all? Especially for the teams with grounds that hold 60, 70, 80k? How could that volume of crowd reaction not sometimes slightly influence a ref out there on their own?
viv_andersons_nana
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That one will feature on the compilation video. The Very Best of VAR.
Encouraging a referee to overturn a correct decision... and change his mind on a deliberate, knee-high foul committed by someone who had no interest in playing the ball. It's absolutely shocking. If Trippier is happy to deliberately foul someone and accept the punishment then that punishment isn't severe enough. It's a red card all the live long day IMO. And following on from the shenanigans at Selhurst Park yesterday as well.
F*ck VAR.
Encouraging a referee to overturn a correct decision... and change his mind on a deliberate, knee-high foul committed by someone who had no interest in playing the ball. It's absolutely shocking. If Trippier is happy to deliberately foul someone and accept the punishment then that punishment isn't severe enough. It's a red card all the live long day IMO. And following on from the shenanigans at Selhurst Park yesterday as well.
F*ck VAR.
Sheriff_John_Bunnell_ret
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You realise we play half of our matches at home?
Only one had a long pause for VAR and it ended up being the Newcastle fans just celebrated it twice!
FabioPorkpie
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I’m half an hour into last nights match of the day….Yet agwin, Var ruining the pleasure of watching.
Anybody who can watch Toney and Schlupp goals get ruled out after extensive celebrations, because of an offside toenail or nasal hair or whatever, and think that VAR is improving the spectacle of the beautiful game, is on another planet to me. Each to their own, but anybody who thinks its making the game fairer (debatable) but the slow erosion of spontaneity of joy from goals is a price worth paying, has a different world view to me.
It‘s killing it! Just go back to the way it was. Refs have always made mistakes, refs looking at VAR will always make mistakes and nobody gives a toss if someone’s sodding pubes are offside!
I want my beautiful game back, warts and controversial ref decisions that we can all whinge about and all!
Anybody who can watch Toney and Schlupp goals get ruled out after extensive celebrations, because of an offside toenail or nasal hair or whatever, and think that VAR is improving the spectacle of the beautiful game, is on another planet to me. Each to their own, but anybody who thinks its making the game fairer (debatable) but the slow erosion of spontaneity of joy from goals is a price worth paying, has a different world view to me.
It‘s killing it! Just go back to the way it was. Refs have always made mistakes, refs looking at VAR will always make mistakes and nobody gives a toss if someone’s sodding pubes are offside!
I want my beautiful game back, warts and controversial ref decisions that we can all whinge about and all!
Funky_Chicken
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Not really bothered - this is our last season in the championship 
Agree but that's an argument about the current wording of the offside rule, not about VAR.
It's not that I think this is a "price worth paying", it's that I don't agree anyone is asking you to pay this price. If you think you've seen a goal, celebrate all you like! Go daft! Eio up and down the aisles! If it gets disallowed you'll feel a bit silly for about 2 or 3 seconds.
Plenty of goals were ruled out before VAR had anything to do with it.
Sheriff_John_Bunnell_ret
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It's like trying to explain human emotion to Mr Spock.
FabioPorkpie
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But why would VAR make it any more likely? Just look at the state of the decisions made using it yesterday, which was a fairly normal var incident day? Just as poor as those made by refs and linesmen in years gone by.
Glover_elbow
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I think it's a real positive we don't have it. I was also dispaointed we changed to five subs as well really don't see the need for it
It's like trying to explain human emotion to Mr Spock.
I agree but we probably see our roles reversed.
I'll say it again. I watched Newcastle v Man City earlier. 6 goals. The fans seemed to enjoy them. Are you telling me they did not?
One of the goals was checked for VAR. In the end it was given. The Newcastle fans celebrated twice. Are you telling me they actually won't have enjoyed that goal afterall?
I agree VAR doesn't get it right every single time as the public view it but I believe they get right more than they get wrong tbh. I believe as a Middlesbrough supporter that we would have more points on the board if VAR did exist and I know further down the line we'd probably get something against us, it's swings and roundabouts but overall I believe if implemented correctly it can only be a good thing for football.
Sheriff_John_Bunnell_ret
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I can't comment on how other people experience things, I can only comment on my own experience. I've already given the example of crooks goal in the utd match. And that was one that was allowed. I think if they'd disallowed maccarones goal against steau I'd never go to a football match again.
I really don't understand what you're saying. What would Maccarones goal have been disallowed for if we had been playing with VAR? I've just watched it back on youtube there's not even a hint of offside? No handball? None of their players take a knock? None of them even complain or appeal to the ref for anything?
viv_andersons_nana
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What a great weekend for VAR! Another one! Yeah!
F*ck VAR!
F*ck VAR!