William assaulted Harry...

Does the reference to a 'neckless' suggest a bit of female input to the book? Not sure a man would ever refer to a chain as a neckless!
How do you know it was a chain? In my younger days I often wore non-metallic necklaces. Maybe he did, too.
 
Agreed, Williams best response, is no response…
I'm no Royalist and usually don't go looking for any tibits about them , but for the last two years on my feeds have come regular ' news' stories pushing items about Harry and Meghan , how they are in it for themselves etc, I try to keep a dispassionate eye on any news that comes my way now and try to see how it is trying to influence me which is what present day news is all about. I feel from watching these articles flow through that there has been a pretty consistent hatchet job going on them. If William is not saying anything , is that only publicly?
 
You speak as if his mother was an innocent victim in her own mess. She wasn't. They all play the game with the media without ever thinking that one day the wolves will turn on them.
If you're talking about her (in)famous BBC interview with Martin Bashir, don't forget that he obtained that, through her brother, using fraudulent means. As mentioned in the article below:

a 2021 inquiry by Lord Dyson found that Martin Bashir had committed "deceitful behavior" by commissioning fake bank statements and false documents

The BBC will no longer show that interview (and encourages others not to do so) precisely because of the fraud involved in obtaining it.

Why BBC Banned Princess Diana's Full Panorama Interview
 
According to Harry? Who only shares the same mother with William and absolutely nothing else.
The trouble with the theory that James Hewitt might be Harry's father is that it's pretty much impossible. Acording to multiple sources (including her police bodyguard at the time) the first time Diana ever met Hewitt was in 1986. Harry was born in 1984.

It's also worth remembering that ginger hair is a Spencer family trait. Both her brother Charles and sister Sarah, are ginger - as are and/or have been, various other Spencer family members.
 
If you're talking about her (in)famous BBC interview with Martin Bashir, don't forget that he obtained that, through her brother, using fraudulent means. As mentioned in the article below:



The BBC will no longer show that interview (and encourages others not to do so) precisely because of the fraud involved in obtaining it.

Why BBC Banned Princess Diana's Full Panorama Interview
No I wasn't. I'm talking about her briefing of newspaper editors.
 
The interview last night on ITV was quite telling. If people had seen that I am not sure why they would continue with the hate towards Harry. Yes, I think he has some of his own owning up to do but it does seem that he has suffered immensely since his mother died. It is his story and after the last 6 years of course he is entitled to correct what he sees as 'tabloid lies' about him and his family.

His beef is mainly with the tabloids - for me it seems if you are hating on Harry you are then excusing what the tabloids have done. Tabloids are a disgusting element of British society - controlled by a few super rich individuals and by their nature designed to influence and control the public. I'd trust Harry rather than The Sun or The Mail.
 
The interview last night on ITV was quite telling. If people had seen that I am not sure why they would continue with the hate towards Harry. Yes, I think he has some of his own owning up to do but it does seem that he has suffered immensely since his mother died. It is his story and after the last 6 years of course he is entitled to correct what he sees as 'tabloid lies' about him and his family.

His beef is mainly with the tabloids - for me it seems if you are hating on Harry you are then excusing what the tabloids have done. Tabloids are a disgusting element of British society - controlled by a few super rich individuals and by their nature designed to influence and control the public. I'd trust Harry rather than The Sun or The Mail.
Whilst I agree there has been a hatchet job that's not in doubt, some of the things quoted in his book are quite pathetically trivial and make him seem like a very bitter man. He mocks his brothers receding hairline, come on really, He also mentions dating Caroline flack again completely unnecessary and upsetting for her family, and also the whole i was a stallion losing my virginity story is frankly embarrassing and to me didn't need to be told.

He has overshared so much tawdry detail and betrayed the confidence so many ordinary people who have nothing to do with the royal family, it delegitimises his valid complaints against the press and the firm.

I think he has been completely misguided releasing the book, and the editorial team have set him up for a fall, in my mind he will massively regret a lot of the content in years to come. Above all else rightly or wrongly by going public he has made it almost impossible to reconcile with his family.
 
Whilst I agree there has been a hatchet job that's not in doubt, some of the things quoted in his book are quite pathetically trivial and make him seem like a very bitter man. He mocks his brothers receding hairline, come on really, He also mentions dating Caroline flack again completely unnecessary and upsetting for her family, and also the whole i was a stallion losing my virginity story is frankly embarrassing and to me didn't need to be told.

He has overshared so much tawdry detail and betrayed the confidence so many ordinary people who have nothing to do with the royal family, it delegitimises his valid complaints against the press and the firm.

I think he has been completely misguided releasing the book, and the editorial team have set him up for a fall, in my mind he will massively regret a lot of the content in years to come. Above all else rightly or wrongly by going public he has made it almost impossible to reconcile with his family.
This. I detest the tabloid press in our country, they're a national disgrace. But the man is a fool, and a massively privileged and entitled one at that.
 
This. I detest the tabloid press in our country, they're a national disgrace. But the man is a fool, and a massively privileged and entitled one at that.
Completely agree

Harry's story

A. Harry acts likes a privileged a_rsehole
B. He meets Megan and has an epiphany and realises he acted like a privileged a_rsehole all his life.
C. He then discovers the whole royal family are a_rseholes and don't like him or his wife
D. Finally He writes a book glorifying being an a_rsehole pre-megan, followed by telling the world his brothers a chunt and the rest of the family are racist a_rseholes.

The bottom line is the whole royal family, are awful people and the monarchy as an institution has no place in the 21st century.
 
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Whilst I agree there has been a hatchet job that's not in doubt, some of the things quoted in his book are quite pathetically trivial and make him seem like a very bitter man. He mocks his brothers receding hairline, come on really, He also mentions dating Caroline flack again completely unnecessary and upsetting for her family, and also the whole i was a stallion losing my virginity story is frankly embarrassing and to me didn't need to be told.

He has overshared so much tawdry detail and betrayed the confidence so many ordinary people who have nothing to do with the royal family, it delegitimises his valid complaints against the press and the firm.

I think he has been completely misguided releasing the book, and the editorial team have set him up for a fall, in my mind he will massively regret a lot of the content in years to come. Above all else rightly or wrongly by going public he has made it almost impossible to reconcile with his family.

When I heard he had included details about his virginity etc I thought it was a good move - it means that he owns the story and it can't be discovered and distorted by the tabloids. They really have nothing to discover about Harry now - they can only attack him and that makes them seem very petty.

Regarding his family - he can't reconcile now so by releasing the book he's not made anything worse with them.
 
His story is

A. Harry acts likes a privileged ****
B. He meets Megan and has an epiphany and realises he acted like an **** all his life.
C. Then he discovers the whole royal family are ****. and dont like him or his wife
D. He writes a book glorifying being an **** pre-megan, and telling the world his brothers a chunt and the rest of the family racist ****..

The first 3 I probably agree with, Harry probably would too.

Your last point though, he clarified last night that the Royal Family aren't racist in his opinion. And I suppose it is for the reader to decide if William is a ****. I can imagine he is. if you think Harry is one it figures that William would be one too!
 
When I heard he had included details about his virginity etc I thought it was a good move - it means that he owns the story and it can't be discovered and distorted by the tabloids. They really have nothing to discover about Harry now - they can only attack him and that makes them seem very petty.

Regarding his family - he can't reconcile now so by releasing the book he's not made anything worse with them.
when a bloke brags about losing his virginity it normally means it didn't happen like that at all.. to put it in print is absolutely pathetic.
 
when a bloke brags about losing his virginity it normally means it didn't happen like that at all.. to put it in print is absolutely pathetic.

Maybe. But it is 4 lines in a book. Without anyone reading the English version and seeing the context in which it was written I am not sure we can be 100% that is didn't need to be included.

I'm not sure though why that in itself has triggered so many people? I couldn't care less about Harry's virginity. If I was reading the book it would be 4 lines that I probably wouldn't even think much about. I'm not sure I would feel the need to slate him because of it though.
 
Maybe. But it is 4 lines in a book. Without anyone reading the English version and seeing the context in which it was written I am not sure we can be 100% that is didn't need to be included.

I'm not sure though why that in itself has triggered so many people? I couldn't care less about Harry's virginity. If I was reading the book it would be 4 lines that I probably wouldn't even think much about. I'm not sure I would feel the need to slate him because of it though.
As a result of him oversharing four lines, a host of women have become under unfair scrutiny from the press.
 
As a result of him oversharing four lines, a host of women have become under unfair scrutiny from the press.

Have they? And if they have is that Harry's fault or is it more a sign that the tabloids are disgusting for trying to find the woman involved? If no one cares why are they looking? Should Harry not be allowed to share information about his life because the gutter press will try and write about it?
 
Have they? And if they have is that Harry's fault or is it more a sign that the tabloids are disgusting for trying to find the woman involved? If no one cares why are they looking? Should Harry not be allowed to share information about his life because the gutter press will try and write about it?
Harry knows their modus operandi, so yes if he had an inkling of self-awareness he would have known his virginity comments would invite press investigation and embarrassment for some poor women. Why on earth did it need to be written.
 
Why on earth did it need to be written.

I think I said earlier - to deprive the press of digging that up in the future and twisting it. I think if you are telling your 'story' and that incident represents a small part of it it isn't unreasonable to write a (very) short passage about it.

But TBH I do agree with you regarding self awareness. I do feel though he refuses to be prevented by the press to say or do what he feels he should be able to do.
 
I'm no Royalist and usually don't go looking for any tibits about them , but for the last two years on my feeds have come regular ' news' stories pushing items about Harry and Meghan , how they are in it for themselves etc, I try to keep a dispassionate eye on any news that comes my way now and try to see how it is trying to influence me which is what present day news is all about. I feel from watching these articles flow through that there has been a pretty consistent hatchet job going on them. If William is not saying anything , is that only publicly?
absolutely this. It's exactly how I feel. I'm an anti-royalist, a republican, and it's been clear for a long time that "royal sources say" is code for "the royal family say, but don't want to take ownership of this statement". It's been a hatchet job for years, purely because he and his wife won't play the game they want.
 
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