dooderooni
Well-known member
Trump and Fox News are a symbiotic idiocracy and yet, they have the power to save thousands of lives.
This is shocking.
This is shocking.
Some hoax - I've been working 12 hour days, trying to make sure that our networking and computing can continue to support our front-line staff. I have photographs from my boss of the microwave comms going in between the roof of one of our buildings to the field hospital in Central Park - all done inside a day, by a father and son team who did it for no recompense.What it's like for first responders like me to get told coronavirus is a 'hoax'
https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opini...rontlines-yet-i-ve-heard-pandemic-ncna1175426
Even a stopped clock is right twice a day.
For example, when he shut down travel from China (would he really do that if he thought it was a "hoax"?) New York public officials reacted much as posters on here. They called him racist, and promoted exactly the opposite approach. The Director of Public Health encouraged people to party in China Town - she actually suggested ignoring the virus. And in early March, The New York Mayor was still suggesting people go to the cinema.
Their reaction to Trump is one reason why New York has been so badly hit. The main reason is probably the number of travelers from China before travel was stopped. That and travel from Europe (who did not stop travel from China).
As for Hydroxychloroquine, it's madness to reject this drug because Trump talked about it. Trump mentioned it because of a highly successful French trial. It's part of the standard protocol for Covid-19 in China, and in New York, doctors are taking the drug to avoid developing Covid-19. US doctors prescribe it to people with moderate symptoms to try to avoid severe disease with some success - though all anecdotal until the trials are complete.
The drug isn't just used for malaria. It's also used for arthritis and lupus - i.e. it's an anti-inflammatory. Inflammation is in part what causes ARDS in Covid-19 patients. I'd already read about the drug before Trump mentioned it, and would be happy to give the drug a try should a doctor recommend it. Like any drug it isn't for everyone.
It's really dangerous to take too much notice of US media. Especially the more rabidly anti-Trump media. They've lost all reason. I have colleagues in the US that no longer watch any mainstream news media because they can't trust it. The trust numbers for media in the US are terrible. The BBC is the most trusted channel at 80%. Ironically Fox is next at 60% (which means even some Democrats prefer it). CNN is somewhere around the mid 30's.
He also urged them to try an unproven malaria drug (hydroxychloroquine) which has dangerous side effects, and also reduces supply for those that actually need it, saying "what have you got to lose".
https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump...l-interest-in-hydroxychloroquine-manufacturer
I don't know of anyone that's rejecting this drug but many medical and scientific experts are urging caution and asking for proper trials to be done. There was no "highly successful French trial" - there was one seriously flawed study that among other things, did not use standard provisions like a double-blind, placebo controlled study would, used non-comparable groups for those receiving and not receiving the medication and then excluded 23% of the patients who had an adverse reaction to the hydroxychloroquine + azithromycin (including one who died) from the final results. Then there was a purely observational study with about 80 patients who all had only mild symptoms to start with - also not using any proper controls.As for Hydroxychloroquine, it's madness to reject this drug because Trump talked about it. Trump mentioned it because of a highly successful French trial. It's part of the standard protocol for Covid-19 in China, and in New York, doctors are taking the drug to avoid developing Covid-19. US doctors prescribe it to people with moderate symptoms to try to avoid severe disease with some success - though all anecdotal until the trials are complete.
Given the lack of solid scientific evidence for the efficacy of hydrochloroquine and its rare but serious cardiac adverse effects, the CNGE Scientific Council recommends general practitioners not to prescribe this medication on an outpatient basis. This prescription would be contrary to medical ethics because the risk (known) is potentially greater than the effectiveness (not established) in an outpatient population which will heal spontaneously in more than 80% of cases. In the current state of knowledge, the use of hydroxychloroquine should be reserved for properly conducted therapeutic trials to assess the benefit / risk balance.
Not quite true but I get what you meanMore people died today in NYC than in 9/11, some hoax eh.
All he is bothered about is the$$$. Like I said earlier a complete socio/psychopath.Straight from the horses ass, Trump wants everyone to forget about the virus, except those who have lost someone, they can remember. How deep is the pit where his empathy is held hostage by his self-interest.
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