Trump ahead of Biden in US opinion polls

Biden holds the record for the most votes received in ALL of American history - this in spite of campaigning mostly hidden away due to " things". Quite incredible.

However - I would guess a fair few of those did so holding their noses, mostly motivated by Orange Man Bad syndrome - and the well co-ordinated online campaign and record funding during Covid.

Since however - Biden has been a fluffer of almost everything - aside from his numerous lies during his career -just walking in a straight line, climbing steps, falling off bikes , arming Taliban, soaring inflation, a massive and sustained breach of the southern border, printing endless dollars that can never be paid back-( more inflation?) there's more of course. The point is, it is hard to see him even competing in the race much less winning.

For what it's worth - from what appears in sources ( can we ever really know what is real/truth now? Hello Mr Chester and your industries work) Trump is not my cup of tea - too polarising - but Biden is not the answer for US this time - and the party may well jettison, if they can find a candidate, admittedly from slim pickings.
 
I don't think anyone on here is taking the chance of Trump not winning for granted.
In 2016 he was seen as a candidate for change and a break from the establishment.
Four years later, the image of the successful businessman had all but faded and the voters had seen enough of him to make informed decisions based on his policies. Since his loss he has moved further right and has pinned his future, both politically and as a free man, on overthrowing democracy and on the pro life vote.
As we've seen in recent elections, that last issue is a huge loser for the GOP.
By the time the election comes round it is more than likely that the US economy will have strengthened even further under Biden.
Of course, Trump will get a lot of votes, that's just the nature of the US psychology and their inherently racist, xenophobic past. However, in terms of policy, and particularly policies affecting women, he'll struggle and now he's being openly and unapologetically fascistic then I think that when it comes to a general election and not just a poll of a few thousand, you will find he will see similar results as in 2020.
The so called Red Wave has never materialised and that is simply because of the extreme policies of the GOP and their complete refusal to actually try and govern for the people rather than impose their beliefs on the people.
And before anyone asks it again, I won't be betting on the result as, one, I don't gamble and two, I don't trust the GOP to not try to steal the next election after the trial run in 2020.
 
Trump now ahead of Biden in all 7 swing states.

When polled Trump loses to a generic Dem, Biden loses to a generic Rep, Biden loses to Trump.

Biden needs to step away from running. If he runs against Trump, Trump will be big favourite.
 
I've a feeling Trump wont get to the day tbh, when a bloke says he would like to be the 1st American dictator it sets the alarm bells ringing.

They will have something lined up for him and his cohorts. Watch that space.
 
In the recent rallies it has been Trump who is showing serious signs of cognitive decline, stumbling his words, forgetting what he is trying to say and going off on incoherent rants. I wouldn't wish dementia on anyone, but it wouldn't surprise me if he is in initial stages of it.
 
VladKinder said:
Trump now ahead of Biden in all 7 swing states.

When polled Trump loses to a generic Dem, Biden loses to a generic Rep, Biden loses to Trump.

Biden needs to step away from running. If he runs against Trump, Trump will be big favourite.
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Trump only won because he was up against Hillary arguably the most polarising figure in us politics this century ( not many people in the us didn’t already have an opinion on her) and it was almost impossible to change this.

If Biden steps aside then it’s Kamala a black woman and that changes everything….

But trump is the devil and he simply can’t hold power again.

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We should all be worried here.

If Trump wins:

Russia win in Ukraine and will then move onto the Baltic states (Estonia ect)
Obamacare and other "Socialist" policies in the US will be gutted along with voting rights for some demographics.
The Christian Right both in the US and the UK will be more emboldened than ever (Abortion rights are just the start for those clamoring for a theocratic government)
Russian influence in the Middle East will expand and further the problems in the ares.

It will have a negative impact here as those Trumpist libertarian wannabees on this side of the Atlantic will be further emboldened. If you think Kemi attacking "woke archaeology" is bad, you ain't seen nothing yet.

Trump winning is horrible globally not just in the US, he was bad first time, now he has an axe to grind and a point to prove.

Biden has done a steady job and has less health issues than the orange monster but he should stand aside for fresh blood, there is talent in the senate (Jamie Raskin would be fantastic I think) but Biden (who has hinted if Trump wasn't running neither would he) thinks he is the safest bet to beat Trump. I think that's wrong but hey ho. Let's hope the US electorate isn't hoodwinked by the GOPs client media in the way we are by ours here.
 
VladKinder said:
Trump now ahead of Biden in all 7 swing states.

When polled Trump loses to a generic Dem, Biden loses to a generic Rep, Biden loses to Trump.

Biden needs to step away from running. If he runs against Trump, Trump will be big favourite.
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For the millionth time, these polls are incredibly selective and mean absolutely nothing.
 
JonnyHistory said:
We should all be worried here.

If Trump wins:

Russia win in Ukraine and will then move onto the Baltic states (Estonia ect)
Obamacare and other "Socialist" policies in the US will be gutted along with voting rights for some demographics.
The Christian Right both in the US and the UK will be more emboldened than ever (Abortion rights are just the start for those clamoring for a theocratic government)
Russian influence in the Middle East will expand and further the problems in the ares.

It will have a negative impact here as those Trumpist libertarian wannabees on this side of the Atlantic will be further emboldened. If you think Kemi attacking "woke archaeology" is bad, you ain't seen nothing yet.

Trump winning is horrible globally not just in the US, he was bad first time, now he has an axe to grind and a point to prove.

Biden has done a steady job and has less health issues than the orange monster but he should stand aside for fresh blood, there is talent in the senate (Jamie Raskin would be fantastic I think) but Biden (who has hinted if Trump wasn't running neither would he) thinks he is the safest bet to beat Trump. I think that's wrong but hey ho. Let's hope the US electorate isn't hoodwinked by the GOPs client media in the way we are by ours here.
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I think a Trump victory would be a terrible thing, but seriously, there’s a bit of nonsense there.

Abortion rights are a done deal in the UK for a start, which is about as likely to become a theocracy as a bowl of soup. Even “ the most right wing Tory government in history” extended them to Northern Ireland the moment direct rule gave them the chance. I don’t really see why NATO abandons the Baltic states either. I mean, the Ukrainian army was capable of fighting the Russians to a standstill. I think even with an isolationist America, the whole of European NATO could probably manage it.
 
FishofContemplation said:
I think a Trump victory would be a terrible thing, but seriously, there’s a bit of nonsense there.

Abortion rights are a done deal in the UK for a start, which is about as likely to become a theocracy as a bowl of soup. Even “ the most right wing Tory government in history” extended them to Northern Ireland the moment direct rule gave them the chance. I don’t really see why NATO abandons the Baltic states either. I mean, the Ukrainian army was capable of fighting the Russians to a standstill. I think even with an isolationist America, the whole of European NATO could probably manage it.
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But without a us threat putin would take slot more risks as he’s not scared of Brussels but he is Washington.

Once article 5 is diluted all bets are off inc Estonia Poland etc.
 
FishofContemplation said:
I think a Trump victory would be a terrible thing, but seriously, there’s a bit of nonsense there.

Abortion rights are a done deal in the UK for a start, which is about as likely to become a theocracy as a bowl of soup. Even “ the most right wing Tory government in history” extended them to Northern Ireland the moment direct rule gave them the chance. I don’t really see why NATO abandons the Baltic states either. I mean, the Ukrainian army was capable of fighting the Russians to a standstill. I think even with an isolationist America, the whole of European NATO could probably manage it.
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There may be a little hyperbole in there but if you think any law is a done deal you are being naive.
Without America there is no NATO, If the US halved there military budget they would still outspend the rest of the world almost combined!
The stability of Europe is very much at stake in Ukraine and if Putin is successful there you are very naive to think that is were he will stop. He has said as much himself and any scholars of Russia will tell you the same thing, he wants to reclaim the old soviet territories and has been working towards that goal for two decades.
 
JonnyHistory said:
There may be a little hyperbole in there but if you think any law is a done deal you are being naive.
Without America there is no NATO, If the US halved there military budget they would still outspend the rest of the world almost combined!
The stability of Europe is very much at stake in Ukraine and if Putin is successful there you are very naive to think that is were he will stop. He has said as much himself and any scholars of Russia will tell you the same thing, he wants to reclaim the old soviet territories and has been working towards that goal for two decades.
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Abotortion is not an issue it just doesn’t poll in the uk at all where’s as in the us it does ( roe vs wade is or rather was a significant milestone stone)
 
Jedi boro said:
Abotortion is not an issue it just doesn’t poll in the uk at all where’s as in the us it does ( roe vs wade is or rather was a significant milestone stone)
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It has been rearing its head in the last few years! I agree though, it is very unlikely that will become a target and was a touch hyperbolic, the point is those theocratic wedge issues will become more prevalent in political discourse here.

Everything on Russia however I 100% stand by, they want the Baltic states next and if they get Ukraine they will go there next.
 
Germany is already wavering on Ukraine and Hungary have all but backed putin so make no mistake the EU is far from unified on this issue.
 
JonnyHistory said:
It has been rearing its head in the last few years! I agree though, it is very unlikely that will become a target and was a touch hyperbolic, the point is those theocratic wedge issues will become more prevalent in political discourse here.

Everything on Russia however I 100% stand by, they want the Baltic states next and if they get Ukraine they will go there next.
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Absolutely the soviet onion is being restored


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Trump will be jailed before the election.
He's going to have his business heavily sanctioned in NY for a start.
He's also extremely panicked about the cases in DC and Georgia too and knows that the evidence is there against him.
He's trying to establish presidential immunity from all crimes for the very reason that he knows he's going to lose both cases.
Just this week text messages between the lawyer behind the fake electors scheme and Trump aids revealed that the language used in the certificates was illegal and should be changed. When told this the Trump aid said, and I quote, "f*** it". The lawyer, Ken Chesboro, added the words "contingent on legal challenges" on the Pennsylvania certifates and guess what, there are no charges in Pennsylvania.
Fani Willis and Jack Smith have the goods on him and once that evidence is out there then even Fix News will have to accept it. It won't change the base vote, but it will hit with sensible Republican voters and alongside the economic success of the Biden administration it'll put a lot off Trump.
 
dooderooni said:
Trump will be jailed before the election.
He's going to have his business heavily sanctioned in NY for a start.
He's also extremely panicked about the cases in DC and Georgia too and knows that the evidence is there against him.
He's trying to establish presidential immunity from all crimes for the very reason that he knows he's going to lose both cases.
Just this week text messages between the lawyer behind the fake electors scheme and Trump aids revealed that the language used in the certificates was illegal and should be changed. When told this the Trump aid said, and I quote, "f*** it". The lawyer, Ken Chesboro, added the words "contingent on legal challenges" on the Pennsylvania certifates and guess what, there are no charges in Pennsylvania.
Fani Willis and Jack Smith have the goods on him and once that evidence is out there then even Fix News will have to accept it. It won't change the base vote, but it will hit with sensible Republican voters and alongside the economic success of the Biden administration it'll put a lot off Trump.
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I think you underestimate how many idealogues the Republicans have in the courts, especially the supreme court. If the last 8 years has shown anything in America its that the Republicans do not give a toss about rule of law unless it suits them.

It is maybe 50/50 at best he see's a jail cell and the same if he ends up being in the presidential race.
 
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