Trevor Sinclair

[Priv]

He should have the right to say what he did. Tough as that may be for some to swallow. The convicted racist card is a bit of a strange one.. he went on a bender after being patter in the head and called something or other. The tone of that upset in the context did lead him to retaliate when arrested, calling the police officer a white b*stard. I’m not making excuses for the guy, but the narrative can stacked against him which might not be necessarily fair.. in my opinion.

Your missing half the story, he was drink driving first and also deliberately p1ssed in the police van, don’t make excuses for him, he’d previously been in trouble for beating up his wife a few years earlier he’s an utter scumbag.

 

[newyddion]

Your missing half the story, he was drink driving first and also deliberately p1ssed in the police van, don’t make excuses for him, he’d previously been in trouble for beating up his wife a few years earlier he’s an utter scumbag.

But he did those things and was still in work. The tweet is a separate issue and shouldn’t be used in the same context imo

 

[Quicksilvera]

But he did those things and was still in work. The tweet is a separate issue and shouldn’t be used in the same context imo

He won’t get a media job again, priv is right in what he says, he’s an absolute scumbag.

 

[r00fie1]

At the risk of causing upset, I defend the right of Trevor Sinclair to express his opinion, no matter how unsavoury others may find his comments.
We`ve spoken in the last 24 hours about "respect" for the Monarch.
That also applies to respect for the opinions of others.

 

[sherlock]

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That wasn’t even the worst thing she posted. She tweeted, and later deleted, that she hoped The Queen died in excruciating pain.

 

[Quicksilvera]

At the risk of causing upset, I defend the right of Trevor Sinclair to express his opinion, no matter how unsavoury others may find his comments.
We`ve spoken in the last 24 hours about "respect" for the Monarch.
That also applies to respect for the opinions of others.

Sorry R00fie he lost any chance of respect when he first hit a woman and then secondly being convicted of racism, he shouldn’t be able to air his opinions daily.

 

[boroboy6872]

At the risk of causing upset, I defend the right of Trevor Sinclair to express his opinion, no matter how unsavoury others may find his comments.
We`ve spoken in the last 24 hours about "respect" for the Monarch.
That also applies to respect for the opinions of others.

Sorry Roofie, I won`t respect anybody's opinion if they are a racist

 

[r00fie1]

Sorry R00fie he lost any chance of respect when he first hit a woman and then secondly being convicted of racism, he shouldn’t be able to air his opinions daily.

I make no excuses.

 

[r00fie1]

Sorry Roofie, I won`t respect anybody's opinion if they are a racist

Im not suggesting you should, but its what people say, not what they are which is important.
Our former Prime-Minister is an example of a mysogynistic, criminal, duplicitous liar and a racist.
Many even voted for him.

 

[boroboy6872]

Im not suggesting you should, but its what people say, not what they are which is important.

I get that, but his words will be overshadowed by his past racial slur

Our former Prime-Minister is an example of a mysogynistic, criminal, duplicitous liar and a racist.
Many even voted for him.

Not me thankfully.

 

[r00fie1]

I get that, but his words will be overshadowed by his past racial slur


Not me thankfully.

I wish to plead the 7th Amendment and finish watching Kenneth Moor in "The Admiral Crichton" before I get my Horlix

 

[Stocko]

Isla st clair

 

[El Guapo]

https://m.facebook.com/EmiratesFACup/videos/trevor-sinclair-scores-incredible-bicycle-kick-v-barnsley-fourth-round-1996-97/540943770200815/

I looked for other highlights but couldn’t find any.

 

[1finny]

Sorry Roofie, I won`t respect anybody's opinion if they are a racist

Funny how the world works.
’Respect’ for some has to be unequivocal and despite racism (The Royals)
Respect for others is conditional

I agree with Rooifie - as long as anyone can say something that is legal, they have a right to say it.
Fine and dandy to disagree with what they are saying - obviously

 

[boroboy6872]

Funny how the world works.
’Respect’ for some has to be unequivocal and despite racism (The Royals)
Respect for others is conditional

I agree with Rooifie - as long as anyone can say something that is legal, they have a right to say it.
Fine and dandy to disagree with what they are saying - obviously

Morning 1finny

Unfortunately yes it is funny how the world works

I for one have never asked for anyone to respect the Royals, even the death of the Queen, all I`ve asked is for people to act with dignity.
I`ve offered 1 response to her death and that was RIP and I show her in my avatar as she was my boss when I served with the armed forces

Beyond that there is nothing and do believe that her death is the beginning of the end for the Royal Family and one day (probably after I die) this United Kingdom will become a Republic

In regards to Sinclair, of course he has the right to say something, I`m no fascist and like you say as long as it`s legal

People like Sincair, convicted racists I have no time for and will not hold them in high regard

 

[1finny]

Morning 1finny

Unfortunately yes it is funny how the world works

I for one have never asked for anyone to respect the Royals, even the death of the Queen, all I`ve asked is for people to act with dignity.
I`ve offered 1 response to her death and that was RIP and I show her in my avatar as she was my boss when I served with the armed forces

Beyond that there is nothing and do believe that her death is the beginning of the end for the Royal Family and one day (probably after I die) this United Kingdom will become a Republic

In regards to Sinclair, of course he has the right to say something, I`m no fascist and like you say as long as it`s legal

People like Sincair, convicted racists I have no time for and will not hold them in high regard

Enjoyed reading that response - much appreciated

Sounds like we are both looking for consistency regardless of who the individual is

 

[Priv]

Funny how the world works.
’Respect’ for some has to be unequivocal and despite racism (The Royals)
Respect for others is conditional

I agree with Rooifie - as long as anyone can say something that is legal, they have a right to say it.
Fine and dandy to disagree with what they are saying - obviously

I agree to an extent, certainly in terms of respect but that respect needs to be earned and can be lost, where the biggest issue now lies is whether he has a social media policy he has to adhere to in his talksport contract. I have one in mine. If I say anything on social media that could have a negative impact on the company I work for then I can have my contract terminated. If talksport are facing a revolt from a few hundred k listeners it becomes a commercial decision and not just about free speech or how much of an ar5hole Trevor Sinclair is.

Aside from the “look at me” timing of his post it’s the way he’s implying all people of colour won’t mourn. Which is utter rubbish as many are. Who gave him the right to think he can speak for all of them.

 

[American_Mary]

We live in free society where people will make statements and comments that we may personally find abhorrent but we should never erode that right and protect it at all costs.

Freedom of expression is a cornerstone of civilised society even when some of the things expressed are disagreeable, controversy drives debate and discourse which in turn drives compromise, education and progress.

It's not our right to say what people should or shouldn't say or think, but we can draw our own conclusions based on what is said and counter or acquiesce accordingly.

Whilst it's Sinclair's right to Tweet what he did, it's his employers right to take action, should they decide to do so, the price of freedom is consequence and that is as it should be.

 

[StillCantPickAUsername]

He has the right to express his opinions whenever he wants, as do anyone listening to his opinion. His employer also has a right to express their opinion and can take any necessary steps they feel they need to take to disassociate themselves with him and his opinions should they go against their policies. He will have signed a contract with something along the lines of this on, especially as talksport are a national media company. Unfortunately for him he has chosen his personal rights over his employment rights.

See ya, ya disrespectful racist cnut

 

[1finny]

Sinclair has proved himself to be a racist. As for his views about this country I disagree. Yes, it is not as good as it could be but there have been many improvements made to make this country acceptable for all, regardless of colour. If it was that intolerable why do all the immigrants want to cross Europe risking their lives specifically to come and live here?

As for his tweet about racism being allowed to thrive there are a number of example that would completely contradict that statement.

In the media it would be fair to say there are many more black or brown people than ever before. Newsreaders, journalists and tv adverts being one example. I think I read somewhere that 13.8% of the country are from a black or ethnic minority background, and 25% of tv adverts include this demographic. In the sector I have worked in if I was to apply for a job now, in London, the application form states clearly 'We particularly encourage those from a black or ethnic minority background to apply'

In other words a white, English man from the NE of England would not be high up in the pecking order. We are not perfect but much better than other countries when it comes to making the effort to be multicultural.

Dear me
’all the immigrants in Europe want to come here’.
They don’t - the vast majority go elsewhere.

Indeed that is the kind of racist trope Sinclair may be talking about.

As for your comments about the number of non whites getting ‘air time’. I’d recommend not judging ’thriving racism’ by those fortunate enough to be on TV or in politics.

The police stats are clear - more racist hate crimes reported in 2021 than any other year - almost 100000. It has gone up every year and was less than half that 10 years ago.

I’m not sure white men in the North East or any other part of the country should be spouting on about how much more tolerant we are - ask those who face it day in day out.