jam69
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Why? Wasn't it a quite high brexit area, its a seat they needed to win and they did.I didn't say it was bad news for Labour but with the amount of effort put in I thought it would have been better
Why? Wasn't it a quite high brexit area, its a seat they needed to win and they did.I didn't say it was bad news for Labour but with the amount of effort put in I thought it would have been better
You think labour are worse than the tories?Will never vote Tory. Can’t currently vote Labour under Starmer.
Genuinely don’t know who to vote for.
Their polices represent the working classes more than the tories.Why? That would be swapping a government I’m not happy with, for a government I’m not happy with. It doesn’t matter which one is worse if they’re both bad. I don’t believe Labour represent the working class anymore.
It was a party founded by union workers to protect workers rights, and currently it isn’t supporting the union in its strikes. There is no option for the left, except maybe the Green Party.
It might all change if Starmer is found guilty and quits.
You think labour are worse than the tories?
So you vote for whoever keeps the tories out surely?I never have and never will say that.
So you vote for whoever keeps the tories out surely?
I get this too, but I think it's more about excusing the **** poor judgement in voting for BJ in the first place, than it is about anything else.It makes me so angry constantly getting the reply of "they are all as bad as each other " thats the logic of a 5yr old...of course they are NOT all the same...
Starmer the same a s Bozo? Cooper the same as Patel? Streeting the same as Javid ? and I wont even go to the throwback to Victorian times...reasoning seems to be in very short supply
If you are normally a Labour voter you must surely see the necessity to get rid of the current Tory offering?I’ll look through the manifesto of each party when the time comes and decide that way.
I’ve voted Labour all my life, I’m just not sure on it this time around.
If you are normally a Labour voter you must surely see the necessity to get rid of the current Tory offering?
I think anything would be better than the current right wing shambles, I never thought I would see a Tory government worse than the Thatcher debacle but Johnson has somehow managed it.Ordinarily yes, but there’s normally a viable alternative. I don’t see Labour as a decent alternative at the moment.
Very strange thing for a lifelong Labour voter to say. Attitude like that will just keep the Tories in power.Ordinarily yes, but there’s normally a viable alternative. I don’t see Labour as a decent alternative at the moment.
Nick Cleggs gone mateThe Lib Dems aren't a left of centre party, they're right of centre but not as far as the Tories. They implemented the austerity measures, let's not forget.
The best hope for the country is that they replace the Tories as the dominant right wing opposition.
I'd love to know what reason he has to dislike Starmer mind, seems a decent enough guy. Maybe not very flamboyant and interesting in a media friendly way but who give a f... he's intelligent, isn't constantly full of nonsense and waffle, comes from a moderate background so knows what the normal person needs, and he's a proper footy fan rather than into wiff waff and impregnating random womenYou think labour are worse than the tories?
So you won't vote tactically and could potentially vote Tory? That's fine, but with everything they are doing to this country, are you sure you want 7 more years of that?I’ll look through the manifesto of each party when the time comes and decide that way.
I’ve voted Labour all my life, I’m just not sure on it this time around.
That's the salient point isn't it? I get that people might not feel they are affiliated to a certain party or not look it's direction. But the stone cold, undisputed, proven time and time again fact is: this attitude enables no one but the Tories. You can come back and talk about manifestos and feelings and not liking a certain person but the simple, inalienable fact is, that attitude will give us more years of Tory ruleVery strange thing for a lifelong Labour voter to say. Attitude like that will just keep the Tories in power.
So what you're saying is you don't want to vote against this clown.....
There's a viable alternative because it's the only alternative. No lifelong labour supporter would rather have this shower in chargeVery strange thing for a lifelong Labour voter to say. Attitude like that will just keep the Tories in power.
So what you're saying is you don't want to vote against this clown.....
I will never vote Tory for as long as I live.So you won't vote tactically and could potentially vote Tory? That's fine, but with everything they are doing to this country, are you sure you want 7 more years of that?
I agree it is strange. It’s not a nice feeling to have, usually I have aligned with the views of Labour, not all of them, but most.Very strange thing for a lifelong Labour voter to say. Attitude like that will just keep the Tories in power.
So what you're saying is you don't want to vote against this clown.....