There IS a time and a place to put ya boot through it

JM14 said:
Maddo talks some utter rubbish, said that about 15 times today. Where’s the logic of launching the ball up to a lone striker who won’t ever be able to make it stick.

Yes playing out is risky against the better sides, but it’s the only way to play
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The times we did 'put our foot through it' resulted in us coming back under pressure.

It's risk and reward, which means occasionally we won't always get it right.
 
JM14 said:
Maddo talks some utter rubbish, said that about 15 times today. Where’s the logic of launching the ball up to a lone striker who won’t ever be able to make it stick.

Yes playing out is risky against the better sides, but it’s the only way to play
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you're better off losing it in the oppositions half than on the edge of your own box !
 
locomansimon said:
you're better off losing it in the oppositions half than on the edge of your own box !
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Just hoofing an aimless ball up the pitch every time and basically gifting the opposition the ball? That’s hardly a sustainable way to play

Yes you may get caught in the press but once we beat the press then it usually results in a goal scoring chance
 
It’s risk versus reward. This style of play has taken us from 22nd into the top six and then off the bottom to the edges of the playoffs while bedding in a dozen new players and managing injuries to 8 or 9 senior players, most of them starters. It isn’t going to change under Carrick. It’s what he does, it’s what we do. It’s presumably why he was appointed.

There’s no point asking or demanding that we start smashing it up the pitch because it’s not going to happen. Personally I absolutely love it. I get that sometimes people might think we need to get rid of it but the idea is to get better at what you do best. It’ll take time for us to perfect it and it won’t work every time, but I’d much rather watch this than balls flying through the air every few seconds.
 
It really doesn't matter what people post on here. Carrick wants to play in a certain way - the way he used to play and nothing is going to change. If you noticed today he got agitated when we hoofed it not when passes got intercepted.
 
BlindBoyGrunt said:
True, but assuming he's talking about Barlaser, that wasn't a pass, it was just looped blindly to the edge of the box with no target in mind.
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It was, he made a total hash of it, but I suspect Carrick will not be too critical of him given what he was trying to do.
 
viv_andersons_nana said:
It’s risk versus reward. This style of play has taken us from 22nd into the top six and then off the bottom to the edges of the playoffs while bedding in a dozen new players and managing injuries to 8 or 9 senior players, most of them starters. It isn’t going to change under Carrick. It’s what he does, it’s what we do. It’s presumably why he was appointed.

There’s no point asking or demanding that we start smashing it up the pitch because it’s not going to happen. Personally I absolutely love it. I get that sometimes people might think we need to get rid of it but the idea is to get better at what you do best. It’ll take time for us to perfect it and it won’t work every time, but I’d much rather watch this than balls flying through the air every few seconds.
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It's beautiful to watch and I think we are ahead of Leeds in that department. Their own commentators were very impressed with the way we went about the game. It really came into its own last season away to Sheff Utd when many fans were still doubtful. We conceded early but just kept playing our own game, refusing to be phased by the early setback, and ended up smashing them.
 
BlindBoyGrunt said:
It's beautiful to watch and I think we are ahead of Leeds in that department. Their own commentators were very impressed with the way we went about the game. It really came into its own last season away to Sheff Utd when many fans were still doubtful. We conceded early but just kept playing our own game, refusing to be phased by the early setback, and ended up smashing them.
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I actually think we have improved in terms of how we execute the way Carrick wants us to play, most likely because the players and manager have had more time to develop and refine it.

It makes me think that last years team would be even better, had it stayed together.

Either way you have to feel positive about the club currently is going firmly in the right direction.
 
Barlaser was trying to play the ball to Crooks and when you see it from behind our goal it wasn’t that hard of a pass. You see Crooks throw his head because Barlaser makes a complete balls up of the pass.
 
Nobody is demanding we change the way we play. As I posted in the title, there is a time and a place to absolutely smash it away from danger, we need to start recognising when we can play it out and start a promising attack, and when the odds are stacked against us executing it and so just clear our lines. Head up and seeing if the pass is impossible, seeing if your teammate is really available, seeing if not launch it, safety first. There’s never only one set way of doing things, we need to cut out the needless goals we gift the opposition at some point, it’s just a needless handicap we give ourselves
 
Sometimes, when under pressure, it is frustrating but, as said above, this style of play has brough some pretty impressive results. It has to be the method that all players buy into and must also be drummed into the kids and U21s.
At times, we pass into trouble, as Barlaser did today, but 99% of the time it works well and leads to some quick breaks etc.
 
The first goal wasn't down to style of play or trying to play it out from the back.

It was just a bad clearance from Barlaser.

He tried to put his boot through it and didn't connect properly.
 
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