Cardiffdaffs
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You have been reading the Mail and `Telegraph again.Gilt yields are now higher than when Liz Truss 'crashed the economy'. Pound also plummeting. This budget is looking like another disaster.
You have been reading the Mail and `Telegraph again.Gilt yields are now higher than when Liz Truss 'crashed the economy'. Pound also plummeting. This budget is looking like another disaster.
Agree, not hard enough on the wealthy, but a start.The amount the right wing gutter press and wealthy individuals are moaning suggests they've done something right with this budget.
Although I think many of us would have liked to see them go quite a bit further in targeting the mega rich and in terms of spending.
No doubt a lot of the OTT sensationalist headlines are aimed at making sure they don't go further in the future.
Reeves will almost certainly go further next autumn.The amount the right wing gutter press and wealthy individuals are moaning suggests they've done something right with this budget.
Although I think many of us would have liked to see them go quite a bit further in targeting the mega rich and in terms of spending.
No doubt a lot of the OTT sensationalist headlines are aimed at making sure they don't go further in the future.
Agree, not hard enough on the wealthy, but a start.
I think that’s true but Labour only get elected when they are middle ground.Labo
Labour never look after it's own like the Tories look after their own when they're in power
I think the right wing media are struggling with the narrative, throwing a few headlines around hoping something will stick.What I would say is that the news papers didn't really go beyond the tax/spend narrative on their front pages.
Plenty of talking heads, of course, but that's the same after every budget. It's a talking point.
I'll make this short, yup.I think the right wing media are struggling with the narrative, throwing a few headlines around hoping something will stick.
Labour winning a massive majority was not on their agenda, I think it surprised them despite the opinion polls in the run up.
And now they have got themselves a wealth redistribution budget which actually only really adversely affects a relatively small number of wealthy people.
It’s a nightmare for them.
I think that’s true but Labour only get elected when they are middle ground.
Did you bother to look at the budget?When we live in a two party state this all that happens. The middle ground is the status quo. Limited movement up/down right/left. Nothing really changes. Absolutely ruled by the markets, and that really is the system which will always be self fulfilling. It was like this when we were born and it will remain the same when we die. First Passed The Post. Two cheeks of the aärse.
The main effects on individuals (outside of the NI rise which is a different argument as it's hard to ascertain if higher wages will equal higher productivity) are on people who want to buy a second home, people who have made enough money to pay capital gains tax, and people who inherit a private pension. It's hard to argue that anyone in those categories can't afford to pay a little more tax.I think the right wing media are struggling with the narrative, throwing a few headlines around hoping something will stick.
Labour winning a massive majority was not on their agenda, I think it surprised them despite the opinion polls in the run up.
And now they have got themselves a wealth redistribution budget which actually only really adversely affects a relatively small number of wealthy people.
It’s a nightmare for them.
You've clearly not bothered to do any research on this issue.I think the inheritance tax on farms and businesses valued at over 1 million is absurd tbh and does lower the incentive to build up something
Did you bother to look at the budget?
Higher wages are nothing to do with productivity. It's about paying someone their worth to the business and not expecting the tax payer to subsidise salaries.The main effects on individuals (outside of the NI rise which is a different argument as it's hard to ascertain if higher wages will equal higher productivity) are on people who want to buy a second home, people who have made enough money to pay capital gains tax, and people who inherit a private pension. It's hard to argue that anyone in those categories can't afford to pay a little more tax.
So no!Which one. I’m on about the 20-25th this time round. Same s**t different depth. It’s about the system of governance that produces it.![]()
What you mean by that Labour told the NFU at conference last year that they would not change inheritance tax on agricultural land but here we are with tax on agricultural land so they have lied to the whole industry that supported themYou've clearly not bothered to do any research on this issue.