Norfolkred1
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Just hope we can fast forward to the bunker scene very soon.
Seems a randomly ordered list. The top three are strange choices. Why those three and not like you say Faslane, Southampton, Plymouth, London and potentially Lincolnshire?
To be fair I doubt that the Dumas publish the actual strike list. Regardless of Faslane I can't see why you wouldn't nuke Glasgow. Would settle the sectarian nonsense once and for all (unless they kick off again in the queue for the Pearly Gates!)That list looks made up though!!
You would think areas with the most power stations and infrastructure businesses would be top targets. It's what I would do if I was looking to paralyse a country. There's an interesting mockumentary on National Geographic on Disney+ called American Blackout which explains the chaos caused by a national grid outage.You don't need to worry about bases in a nuclear strike. Faslane will be empty - the subs will be out and won't be returning. Southampton & Plymouth are irrelevant as the world will be a wasteland so they won't be concerned about the odd ship here and there. Catterick - all the troops will be deployed etc etc
Russia would just be interested in mutually assured destructions - that's the population and cities. Us poor buggers. The world as we know it will be over.
I'd imagine nuking the coast is a waste of a nuke too - half of it would head out to sea.
That list looks made up though!!
At least Hull will be improved.Worked for the Pandemic, won't work for a Nuclear Winter.
Here's a handy spotter's guide to Armageddon
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Looks like they decided not to bother nuking Glasgow despite Faslane!
I was in NY during the big blackout in 2003(?) - mass wobble! It was hilarious to watch.You would think areas with the most power stations and infrastructure businesses would be top targets. It's what I would do if I was looking to paralyse a country. There's an interesting mockumentary on National Geographic on Disney+ called American Blackout which explains the chaos caused by a national grid outage.
You would think areas with the most power stations and infrastructure businesses would be top targets. It's what I would do if I was looking to paralyse a country. There's an interesting mockumentary on National Geographic on Disney+ called American Blackout which explains the chaos caused by a national grid outage.
I don’t see much international effort going in to sort it out, one thing I am certain about is that throwing more and more resources at arms and armies will only lead to one outcome.
When the fall out descends on what is left, will you still be saying ‘there was no alternative, shxt happens?’
But who is going to fight his wars? Who will be left in his country? The mass exodus has already started.As we have learnt by now, if Putin gets Ukraine he won't stop there, he didn't stop after Chechnya, he didn't stop after Georgia, he didn't stop after Crimea, next thing he'll take Lithuania to open a land corridor to Kaliningrad or attack Finland because that used to be part of Russia, he might want Poland or the other former Warsaw Pact countries to re-join his new Soviet Republic.
He has to be stopped this time otherwise next time it will be our boys dying.
"Russian"?Worked for the Pandemic, won't work for a Nuclear Winter.
Here's a handy spotter's guide to Armageddon
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Looks like they decided not to bother nuking Glasgow despite Faslane!
But who is going to fight his wars? Who will be left in his country? The mass exodus has already started.
In general, through life, I have considered myself a pacifist by and large. Anti-war ... mostly. But there are exceptions and this is one of them. Putin had to be stopped and, thanks to Ukraine, his larger plans to re-draw the map are in tatters.
I agree that he should have been stopped much earlier. There was too much appeasement (and downright "support" from some areas .... hello Germany).
he's probably a psychopath but not a nutter, I don't believe he hears voices telling him what to doWe are dealing with a complete nutter the like of which not seen since Hitler we need to be very careful with him or it will be curtains for everybody.
Were promoting defence, to avoid greater conflict. I don't think he wants all out war, that will simply lead to his own deathAll I am saying is we shouldn’t be promoting conflict, that is what he wants, he wants all out war and to sink the west.
So acquiescing to him will only lead to further war and destruction down the road. We acquiesced when he annexed crimea, and here we are he tried to take the whole of Ukraine.The devastation already caused in the Ukraine shows that he does not care a jot about people.
If as you say he wants all out war, then you can't find a calm way, instead you have to let the bully know you're standing up to him, and see if he really is all that or not.and find a calm way of nullifying him.
We are dealing with a complete nutter the like of which not seen since Hitler we need to be very careful with him or it will be curtains for everybody.
All I am saying is we shouldn’t be promoting conflict, that is what he wants, he wants all out war and to sink the west. The devastation already caused in the Ukraine shows that he does not care a jot about people.
For once in the history of the human race our politicians need to be clever and find a calm way of nullifying him. Hopefully Biden and his team have it in them.
@BoroMart said pretty much everything I would have wanted to say, but I will add that you’re completely right to be cautious and I’m also very concerned about the future when we can’t know how it’s going to play out with so much at stake.
We can debate the events that got us to this point, including appeasing Putin or as some believe, NATO expansion - there’s strong views on this board on those and other related subjects - but right now we have to be firm or this situation is going to play out again and again.
That doesn’t mean we relish war or hate the Russians, I strongly believe that any rhetoric from us should be understanding and largely sympathetic towards ordinary Russians and, once Putin and his ilk are gone, we should look to incorporate Russia back into fold without a Versailles-like humiliation, lest we want to push them down another dangerous nationalist path.
The problem with the argument from Putin apologists about nato expansion is it doesn’t stand up to scrutiny
Prior to crimea, Ukraine didn’t want to join nato . Crimea pushed the Ukrainians to want to enter it . In fact , polls in Ukraine before 2014 showed decisive no to membership . Crimea flipped that though . Because Russia is a dangerous , imperialist neighbour that is obsessed with empire . It always has been. That’s why a lot of their neighbours want nothing to do with them
Once again, if Russia weren’t trying to seize land off others, lots of their neighbours wouldn’t want to join nato . They can complain about spheres of influence all they like , but they have no right to dictate to another country who they are influenced by. This is all about bringing an empire back to Russia and cementing this ****. legacy .