The end?

Druss_The_Legend said:
Busy night in Both Capitals last night.
Reports of up to 30 drones attacked the Moscow region(hard to get an exact number with this being Russia, but I have read figures of between 8-30 drones), reports are most if not all where shot down causing some limited damage to buildings and some injuries to people.
29 out of 31 drones shot down over Kyiv last night the Russians have been hitting Kyiv heavily in the last couple of weeks.

Rumours are spreading that Russia is preparing to declare war on Ukraine and full mobilisation, these are obviously unconfirmed reports.
Also plenty of talk that it was actually a false flag operation by Russia with the drones on Moscow to gather support for the Full Mobilisation.
Also reports that the Russian Police force in Moscow was told to come into work early last night about an hour before the drone attacks started(again unconfirmed reports from social media).
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Just been reading about this drone attack and some footage. There are reports they flew in from the East 🤷‍♂️

The outrage by pro-Russians is bizarre.
 
Fairly depressing view of the general world political situation from Borolads contact above. Sounds like a number of major players in the world are spoiling for a good war. Could be the last one of course.

I can’t get beyond one life wasted in war is too many but as the conflicts continue to appear as the years go by and we theoretically get more ‘advanced’ you have to wonder if being at war is just as normal a way of life for humans as being at peace.
 
Jonny_Rondos_Disco_pants said:
The outrage by pro-Russians is bizarre.
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Yeah Russia seems to like to bully other nations but doesn't like anyone fighting back in any way.
It's like somebody breaking into a house, stealing the stuff, killing part of the family destroying the living room, claiming ownership of the kitchen then getting all offended when the original owners fight back.

HolgateCorner said:
Fairly depressing view of the general world political situation from Borolads contact above.
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Yes the world certainly seems to have a few sparks next to a powder keg and I don't think it will take much for a larger or several larger conflicts to erupt.
 
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Truly desperate from the Russians if they declare full mobilisation . This is where **** could also turn very hairy for the Kremlin too . If they did this from the start I actually could have seen it being successful . Their elite soldiers could have stormed forward while the general populace became the cannon fodder . They’re now relying on the general populace to take land and start offensives , and it shows . The Russian army has hardly taken any land since its last offensive .

Given the joke conditions the Russians proposed for this to end , I don’t personally think it will . It will most likely be a frozen conflict . Like the Korean War. Even if the Ukrainians gain back all the land , I can envisage the Russians continuing to shell them . So it’s imperative we continue to provide military aid in some capacity . If we help them to develop their economy , it should also assist them in staying militarised .

Ukraine will become very much like South Korea and Israel . It will have to stay highly militarised as it deals with its imperialist neighbour . I know the eu can be picky about who it admits as member states , but I think Ukraine should be allowed to join soon if they massively root out the corruption . Give it an extra economic and security blanket .
 
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HolgateCorner said:
I can’t get beyond one life wasted in war is too many but as the conflicts continue to appear as the years go by and we theoretically get more ‘advanced’ you have to wonder if being at war is just as normal a way of life for humans as being at peace.
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It is depressing but sadly it's what humans are good at. We have an inbuilt instinct to cluster together and this can be because people look like us (skin colour) believe the same myths as us (religion) or more trivially support the same football club and fight against those who are different to us.

What an alien species discovering our world would make of us I can only imagine. They'd probably just leave us well alone until we can live together in peace because as sure as eggs is eggs we'd start shooting the the little green fkkers as soon as we could.
 
Muttley said:
It is depressing but sadly it's what humans are good at. We have an inbuilt instinct to cluster together and this can be because people look like us (skin colour) believe the same myths as us (religion) or more trivially support the same football club and fight against those who are different to us.

What an alien species discovering our world would make of us I can only imagine. They'd probably just leave us well alone until we can live together in peace because as sure as eggs is eggs we'd start shooting the the little green fkkers as soon as we could.
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We’ve evolved under natural selection . I would argue our aggressiveness to each other and other species is a trait we’ve had passed on through our genes . We’ve fought for resources even as cavemen : food, territory and even mates (as in women ). I’m pretty sure any other intelligent species that would have evolved instead of us on this planet would have developed the same characteristics as a product of evolution .

You’re assuming any alien civilisation would be enlightened and not believe in war if we were visited . That isn’t necessarily true . There is a strong possibility any aliens who visited here may attack us for our resources
 
Boroboyyo said:
We’ve evolved under natural selection . I would argue our aggressiveness to each other and other species is a trait we’ve had passed on through our genes . We’ve fought for resources even as cavemen : food, territory and even mates (as in women ). I’m pretty sure any other intelligent species that would have evolved instead of us on this planet would have developed the same characteristics as a product of evolution .

You’re assuming any alien civilisation would be enlightened and not believe in war if we were visited . That isn’t necessarily true . There is a strong possibility any aliens who visited here may attack us for our resources
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Yes I think the natural selection, fight or flight, survival of the fittest and most adaptable is all in there, plus a lot of humans do not agree with the collaboration and teamwork theories, they believe more in individualism.
 
Boroboyyo said:
Truly desperate from the Russians if they declare full mobilisation . This is where **** could also turn very hairy for the Kremlin too . If they did this from the start I actually could have seen it being successful . Their elite soldiers could have stormed forward while the general populace became the cannon fodder . They’re now relying on the general populace to take land and start offensives , and it shows . The Russian army has hardly taken any land since its last offensive .

Given the joke conditions the Russians proposed for this to end , I don’t personally think it will . It will most likely be a frozen conflict . Like the Korean War. Even if the Ukrainians gain back all the land , I can envisage the Russians continuing to shell them . So it’s imperative we continue to provide military aid in some capacity . If we help them to develop their economy , it should also assist them in staying militarised .

Ukraine will become very much like South Korea and Israel . It will have to stay highly militarised as it deals with its imperialist neighbour . I know the eu can be picky about who it admits as member states , but I think Ukraine should be allowed to join soon if they massively root out the corruption . Give it an extra economic and security blanket .
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They can mobilise if they want, but they do not have the equipment, weapons or ammunition. Within days they will be facing a huge onslaught from the UAF, which will not be pretty. Unconfirmed, but it seems they have already stormed a few kilometres from Vuhledar towards Donetsk city (bit of a surprising direction of travel). I suspect that there will be much more, but I anticipate quite tight Opsec. Our fella is awaiting confirmation of the Donetsk thing. It is in fact where tank girl hails from and he knows she is in the area, although they are maintaining phone silence. She did promise him a cobble from the centre of the city.
 
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borolad259 said:
They can mobilise if they want, but they do not have the equipment, weapons or ammunition. Within days they will be facing a huge onslaught from the UAF, which will not be pretty. Unconfirmed, but it seems they have already stormed a few kilometres from Vuhledar towards Donetsk city (bit of a surprising direction of travel). I suspect that there will be much more, but I anticipate quite tight Opsec. Our fella is awaiting confirmation of the Donetsk thing. It is in fact where tank girl hails from and he knows she is in the area, although they are maintaining phone silence. She did promise him a cobble from the centre of the city.
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I suppose there will be feint attacks to keep the Russians guessing and also probing attacks to test defences or take advantage of lack of defense in the front line which can give the attacking troops a confidence boost(also testing newer equipment in real time) and cause moral issues for the defenders if they keep having losses no matter how small the losses are and every gun and every piece of artillery is one less that can be used in defending the main pushes.
 
xxlshirts_fit_all said:
He doesn’t look like a man with the deaths of thousands of his soldiers weighing heavy on his mind…
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Sociopaths, Narcissists and psychopaths don't seem to have much weighing on the mind apart from what is best for them and how to achieve greatness for themselves. Unfortunately these ruthless traits seem to get people into positions of power. This Tedtalk by somebody more intelligent than I am can explain it a lot better than I can.

 
Druss_The_Legend said:
Sociopaths, Narcissists and psychopaths don't seem to have much weighing on the mind apart from what is best for them and how to achieve greatness for themselves. Unfortunately these ruthless traits seem to get people into positions of power. This Tedtalk by somebody more intelligent than I am can explain it a lot better than I can.

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Read his book The Psychopath Test, it's a good read. I've read a few books like this as I come into contact with a lot of these types in the finance industry
 
Druss_The_Legend said:
Sociopaths, Narcissists and psychopaths don't seem to have much weighing on the mind apart from what is best for them and how to achieve greatness for themselves. Unfortunately these ruthless traits seem to get people into positions of power. This Tedtalk by somebody more intelligent than I am can explain it a lot better than I can.

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Really interesting that. I do like Jon Ronson. I've read a few of his books. Always thought-provoking. The Men Who Stare At Goats, was hilarious and unbelievable in equal measure.
 
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