The 9am figures not disclosed yet?

Alvez_48

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Under 5 year average doesn’t mean there still isn’t a pandemic going on
Oh my argument is simply that during a Pandemic you would expect to see excess deaths.
The rest to me is semantics regarding waves etc.. to me that would be a new pandemic but that's just my interpretation.

Lets face it we don't really have data on the actual big ones like Spanish flu to discuss what happened to their excess deaths between waves

It is interesting how this time round it's disproportionately affected old people... Normally it would disproportionately affect young people. (Looking historically at pandemics)
 

GazC_MFC

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Oh my argument is simply that during a Pandemic you would expect to see excess deaths.
The rest to me is semantics regarding waves etc.. to me that would be a new pandemic but that's just my interpretation.

Lets face it we don't really have data on the actual big ones like Spanish flu to discuss what happened to their excess deaths between waves

It is interesting how this time round it's disproportionately affected old people... Normally it would disproportionately affect young people. (Looking historically at pandemics)
I guess just the law of averages if your older and have an underlying health condition then you are at more at risk

I also think the young that have died ‘with no underlying health condition’ are likely to have had one that wasn’t identified
 

Alvez_48

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How many less deaths at the work place as 9 millions more people are home during the day. Be interesting to know if that down

If it isn’t very worrying stat
To me it just clearly shows that a substantial amount of the deaths since lockdown has been due to lack of care.

Probably several thousand.
 
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bear66

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As of 9am on 29 July, 301,455 people have tested positive for coronavirus in the UK (pillar 1 and 2, see descriptions below).

Positive cases (pillars 1 and 2) were 763.

83 deaths were reported.
 

Billy Horner

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Today's headline analysis:

• 763 new cases reported in 24-hour period, up from yesterday's 581
• 7-day average for new cases increases by 4.2% to 725 per day, following 2.9% increase yesterday (and 12th increase in the past 13 days)
• 7-day average for new cases is 13.7% higher than one week ago (from 9.7% higher yesterday) and 24.2% higher than two weeks ago (from 16.6% higher yesterday and 16.8% higher 7 days ago)
• 83 new deaths in all settings reported in 24-hour period, down from 119 yesterday
• 7-day average for new deaths in all settings increases by 0.9% to 66 per day, following 2.0% increase yesterday
• 7-day average for new deaths in all settings is 2.9% higher than one week ago (from 0.7% higher yesterday) and 14.2% lower than two weeks ago (from 21.0% lower yesterday and 27.0% lower 7 days ago)
 

SmallTown

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Today's headline analysis:

• 763 new cases reported in 24-hour period, up from yesterday's 581
• 7-day average for new cases increases by 4.2% to 725 per day, following 2.9% increase yesterday (and 12th increase in the past 13 days)
• 7-day average for new cases is 13.7% higher than one week ago (from 9.7% higher yesterday) and 24.2% higher than two weeks ago (from 16.6% higher yesterday and 16.8% higher 7 days ago)
• 83 new deaths in all settings reported in 24-hour period, down from 119 yesterday
• 7-day average for new deaths in all settings increases by 0.9% to 66 per day, following 2.0% increase yesterday
• 7-day average for new deaths in all settings is 2.9% higher than one week ago (from 0.7% higher yesterday) and 14.2% lower than two weeks ago (from 21.0% lower yesterday and 27.0% lower 7 days ago)
Deaths begining to creep up again slowly. That fits in with cases increasing this past fortnight. I hope we can weather this next month (whether this is just a post lockdown blip or a bigger spike)
 

Billy Horner

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Deaths begining to creep up again slowly. That fits in with cases increasing this past fortnight. I hope we can weather this next month (whether this is just a post lockdown blip or a bigger spike)
I would probably say that deaths are plateauing rather than creeping up just yet. The 7-day average has now been stuck in the 60s for the past 12 consecutive days (previous 'record' was 5 consecutive days in the 110s), although to be fair this becomes slightly more likely as the numbers become smaller.
 

Billy Horner

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The 7-day average for new cases (i.e. positive tests) has increased from an average of 546 per day on 8th July to 725 per day today. That's an increase of 33% in three weeks.

This can't really be explained by an increase in daily tests processed, which has risen from an average of 134,699 per day three weeks ago to an average of 138,196 today. That's an increase of just 2.6%.

So a definite and sustained increase, not just in new cases but also the rate of positive tests.

The good news, however, is that the increase in new cases doesn't really seem to have translated itself into an increase in hospital admissions yet, as they appear to still be decreasing week-to-week. This might add weight to the theory that it is mostly the younger age groups who are becoming infected.
 

RandySavage

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In which case either the virus has lost its lethality by mutating to infect more people, something which was discussed on here weeks and weeks ago OR we are on our way to herd immunity and it further proves the validity of the T-cell theory and how previous exposure to other coronaviruses helps beat off the infection before the unlucky few require hospital treatment.
 

GazC_MFC

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The 7-day average for new cases (i.e. positive tests) has increased from an average of 546 per day on 8th July to 725 per day today. That's an increase of 33% in three weeks.

This can't really be explained by an increase in daily tests processed, which has risen from an average of 134,699 per day three weeks ago to an average of 138,196 today. That's an increase of just 2.6%.

So a definite and sustained increase, not just in new cases but also the rate of positive tests.

The good news, however, is that the increase in new cases doesn't really seem to have translated itself into an increase in hospital admissions yet, as they appear to still be decreasing week-to-week. This might add weight to the theory that it is mostly the younger age groups who are becoming infected.
Listening and reading about the WHO saying it’s a lot more younger people contracting the virus,

wouldn’t be surprised if testing picking up on asymptotic cases too.
Looks like the vulnerable ‘in general’ are being cautious or being better looked after than march/April
 

Laughing

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Listening and reading about the WHO saying it’s a lot more younger people contracting the virus,

wouldn’t be surprised if testing picking up on asymptotic cases too.
Looks like the vulnerable ‘in general’ are being cautious or being better looked after than march/April
I have a similar view Gaz, let's hope that is the case. In any second wave, protecting the vulnerable will go a long long way to managing the mortality rates.
 

bear66

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As of 9am on 30 July, 302,301 people have tested positive for coronavirus in the UK (pillar 1 and 2, see descriptions below).

Positive cases (pillars 1 and 2) were 846 with 99 Pillar 1.

38 deaths were reported.
 

Billy Horner

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Today's headline analysis:

• 846 new cases reported in 24-hour period, up from yesterday's 763
• 7-day average for new cases increases by 1.5% to 736 per day, following 4.2% increase yesterday (and 13th increase in the past 14 days)
• 7-day average for new cases is 12.2% higher than one week ago (from 13.7% higher yesterday) and 26.0% higher than two weeks ago (from 24.2% higher yesterday and 18.1% higher 7 days ago)
• 38 new deaths in all settings reported in 24-hour period, down from 83 yesterday
• 7-day average for new deaths in all settings decreases by 3.3% to 64 per day, following 0.9% increase yesterday
• 7-day average for new deaths in all settings is 2.5% higher than one week ago (from 2.9% higher yesterday) and 13.9% lower than two weeks ago (from 14.2% lower yesterday and 28.6% lower 7 days ago)
 

RandySavage

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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...0-extra-deaths-reduced-access-healthcare.html

Evidence coming that lack of access to care is causing 2,700 'excess' deaths a week.

I've been saying this for ages and have been given so much grief as a result can we now at least accept it's a possibility @bear66 and @Billy Horner ?
Linked with Hancock's latest idea that remote doctor's appointments are here to stay.

Well if he is reducing access to medical care I expect the money that comes off of my pay packet and given to the government each month to be reduced. Much like my water bill has been reduced due to poor practices and services by Northumbria water.
 

RandySavage

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