The 9am figures not disclosed yet?

GazC_MFC said:
Isn’t there a study that’s been released saying the vaccine doesn’t stop transmission?
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Not exactly. From a (yet to be peer reviewed) report last week, it reduces transmission in that you are less likely to get the virus and hence less likely to pass it on, but, if you get the virus, the viral load in your nose and throat is similar to that of an unvaccinated person. The report went on to say that it didn't look at the length of time transmission might take place for vaccinated and unvaccinated cases.

This is seen as bad news for reaching herd immunity.

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As I said a few days ago, we really need to be looking at re-mandating masks in indoor settings where social distancing is difficult otherwise we could be looking at 30k cases a day (or more) for the foreseeable future.
The other thing to consider is that 200k+ cases a week could we'll provide enough chance for new variants to develope.
As long as the vaccines reduce the chances of hospitalisation and subsequent death then masks, hygiene and some social distancing might be the best defence.
Herd immunity still looks a long way off even with the current vaccines so mitigation rather than eradication seems to be the avenue right now.
 
SmallTown said:
Surely there has to be a point where it drops of naturally? I confess I'm surprised we aren't there yet
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Probably not, we should concentrate on counting hospitalizations probably. If we tested this extensively for other diseases we would find some of those endemic from time to time, in fact Google do this periodically in the USA highlighting bad flu seasons before they take hold based on search data.

Ultimately it is deaths and hospital numbers that matter and with a bit of investment in the nhs hospitalisation would become less important.
 
Randy said:
They aren't about transmission now. They were when people assumed vaccinated people couldn't spread it. Now they are pointless.
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Which *people* assumed that Randy. A Room full of vaccinated folk will be at a reduced chance of transmission than if that room just had 1 unvaccinated person in it.
 
Unfettered freedom spunked away the vaccine advantage. Yesterday was the day my calendar year 2021 table showed that the UK has now gone back to the top of the table of cumulative 2021 absolute deaths compared to the big 5 Euro population countries, just gone back above Germany.

In relative population terms the UK remains better of per head than Italy or Poland but at current rates the advantage over Italy will be gone in a month
 
As of 9am on 21 August, 6,460,930 people have tested positive for COVID-19 in the UK.

Positive cases were 32,058 (29,520 on corresponding day last week).

104 deaths were reported today (100 on corresponding day last week).

154,811 deaths with Covid-19 on the death certificate (up to 6 August).

47,573,794 have had a first dose vaccination. 57,289 first dose vaccinations yesterday. 41,496,576 have had a second dose. 164,448 second dose vaccinations today.
 
As of 9am on 22 August, 6,492,906 people have tested positive for COVID-19 in the UK.

Positive cases were 32,253 (26,750 on corresponding day last week).

49 deaths were reported today (61 on corresponding day last week).

154,811 deaths with Covid-19 on the death certificate (up to 6 August).

47,643,064 have had a first dose vaccination. 69,270 first dose vaccinations yesterday. 41,688,636 have had a second dose. 192,060 second dose vaccinations today.
 
bear66 said:
Not if they haven't got the virus because they were vaccinated, which is more likely than an unvaccinated person.
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On this point bear can you point me to an article about how if you are vaccinated you can still give a positive test but are unable to transmit? It's too do with having the virus in your nose and throat but it is essentially dead, I suppose. Someone mentioned this a few days ago and I can't find any information on this.

I am because of this is true its not really a positive test.
 
Laughing said:
On this point bear can you point me to an article about how if you are vaccinated you can still give a positive test but are unable to transmit? It's too do with having the virus in your nose and throat but it is essentially dead, I suppose. Someone mentioned this a few days ago and I can't find any information on this.

I am because of this is true its not really a positive test.
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If they have the virus in their nose or throat (by a positive test) it's likely they can transmit, but there is very little evidence, other than circumstantial and genrtic tracing to link any one case to another individual.

The PCR test itself either finds the genetic code of the virus, or fragments of the virus. If the latter, the person may not be infected at the time of the test. The test sensitivity is set that you are (far) more likely to have the disease though.

The point I was making is that you are (statistically) less likely to catch the disease after vaccination and therefor vaccinated people are less likely (as a group) to transmit.
 
As of 9am on 23 August, 6,524,581 people have tested positive for COVID-19 in the UK.

Positive cases were 31,914 (28,438 on corresponding day last week).

40 deaths were reported today (26 on corresponding day last week).

154,811 deaths with Covid-19 on the death certificate (up to 6 August).

47,690,741 have had a first dose vaccination. 40,345 first dose vaccinations yesterday. 41,810,753 have had a second dose. 116,352 second dose vaccinations today.
 
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