The 9am figures not disclosed yet?

Randy

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Fair enough, so at least now you get that your viewpoint is not that of the entire country, as you claimed.
I see comments supporting my argument too, bit strange that you only recognise comments from one side, but that’s entirely up to you. The people I talk to, my family, my friends tend to align with the polls very well too, I think the last one I saw had 80% support for lockdowns a month ago. It’s probably lower now, but would doubt it’s less than half. So nowhere near your claims that the country doesn’t want it, and nowhere near people on here being a “vocal minority”. More like a vocal majority, if anything.

With regards to your friends, by “impacting on them”, do you try and tell them how to think? Or do you let them have an opinion?
Those polls are the same as they would be on here. They only have around 3000-5000 responses. Out of a population of 67,000,000 it's a small snapshot.

Majority of areas under 200 cases per 100k now. That's only roughly 100 more than August last year.
 

Alvez_48

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Fair enough, so at least now you get that your viewpoint is not that of the entire country, as you claimed.
I see comments supporting my argument too, bit strange that you only recognise comments from one side, but that’s entirely up to you. The people I talk to, my family, my friends tend to align with the polls very well too, I think the last one I saw had 80% support for lockdowns a month ago. It’s probably lower now, but would doubt it’s less than half. So nowhere near your claims that the country doesn’t want it, and nowhere near people on here being a “vocal minority”. More like a vocal majority, if anything.

With regards to your friends, by “impacting on them”, do you try and tell them how to think? Or do you let them have an opinion?

I generally don't talk to my friends about it at all, were all absolutely sick of it so just talk about fun things to be honest and plans for when we're out.

I can't believe you would quote a poll done by the likes of yougov and claim it shows anything apart from what it wants you to show. Last time they posted one the Twitter page below it was hilarious.

Unlike you I wouldn't claim to know the feelings of '200' friends because it would make me look absolutely ludicrous and is completely unverifiable. See you can see on any single comment piece related to Covid on the BBC / mirror / Twitter / daily mail that what I'm saying is reflected there.

Finally you call me a bully and then tell me that my world is horrendous. Pot kettle sir. Get chatting to your 200 mates and get me an update chief, maybe post a graph of their views intricately. Hahaha lunatic.
 

Andy_W

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Those polls are the same as they would be on here. They only have around 3000-5000 responses. Out of a population of 67,000,000 it's a small snapshot.

Majority of areas under 200 cases per 100k now. That's only roughly 100 more than August last year.
I know, but they’re still relevant, they’re not going to reverse for example, not in a month which was the last I saw.

Like I said, before the other dude diverted it, there’s less a case for lockdowns now, a lot less. There’s less of a case for it now, than there was last March, last September or last December. But there’s still a lot of support. Everyone is well aware we were far too lax most of last year and we paid the price later, the govt probably just don’t want another beating having to lock down again.

I think they’re also concerned that the hospitals still have a lot of people still taking up beds, and with us still having some colder months there’s still some time for increases. They probably want us to get passed the flu season too, to claw some excess back.
 

Andy_W

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I generally don't talk to my friends about it at all, were all absolutely sick of it so just talk about fun things to be honest and plans for when we're out.

I can't believe you would quote a poll done by the likes of yougov and claim it shows anything apart from what it wants you to show. Last time they posted one the Twitter page below it was hilarious.

Unlike you I wouldn't claim to know the feelings of '200' friends because it would make me look absolutely ludicrous and is completely unverifiable. See you can see on any single comment piece related to Covid on the BBC / mirror / Twitter / daily mail that what I'm saying is reflected there.

Finally you call me a bully and then tell me that my world is horrendous. Pot kettle sir. Get chatting to your 200 mates and get me an update chief, maybe post a graph of their views intricately. Hahaha lunatic.
Yeah, of course you do.....bet it’s a right laugh 😂

I didn’t even remember where the poll was from, so found three and they were all similar. Were you against lockdowns in December and January?

I don’t have to be verified by you, who do you think you are? 😂

I would pay little attention to those sites, other than Twitter, but you can read what you like, knock yourself out. A chunk of the people on Twitter against lockdowns seem to be FRNJ’s, which is nice.
 

Andy_W

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As of 9am on 20 February, 4,105,675 people have tested positive for COVID-19 in the UK.

Positive cases were 10,406.

445 deaths were reported today

129,498 deaths with Covid-19 on the death certificate (up to 5 February)

17,247,402 have had a first dose vaccination. 371,906 first dose vaccinations yesterday.
Cases about 30% down on last Saturday, will help the weekly average out. 👍
 

Laughing

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As of 9am on 20 February, 4,105,675 people have tested positive for COVID-19 in the UK.

Positive cases were 10,406.

445 deaths were reported today

129,498 deaths with Covid-19 on the death certificate (up to 5 February)

17,247,402 have had a first dose vaccination. 371,906 first dose vaccinations yesterday.
A bit of sanity back on the thread, thanks Bear!
 

Alvez_48

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Yeah, of course you do.....bet it’s a right laugh 😂

I didn’t even remember where the poll was from, so found three and they were all similar. Were you against lockdowns in December and January?

I don’t have to be verified by you, who do you think you are? 😂

I would pay little attention to those sites, other than Twitter, but you can read what you like, knock yourself out. A chunk of the people on Twitter against lockdowns seem to be FRNJ’s, which is nice.

Aww is the bully in you coming out... When you have nothing to say just say I'm an alt right nut job. Classic. Didn't take long for the mask to slip Andy.

I tell you what I'll let you stop wasting your time talking to me otherwise you'll be losing touch with your 200 friends aged 30-50, 50 of whom are lifelong friends and their opinions of lockdown. If you're not careful you'll not be able to speak for all of these people anymore 😂

In all seriousness, I don't mean to anger or upset you (though you will claim I haven't). I promise you I'm anything but a FRNJ or a Q fan. Have a good one pal.
 

Andy_W

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Aww is the bully in you coming out... When you have nothing to say just say I'm an alt right nut job. Classic. Didn't take long for the mask to slip Andy.

I tell you what I'll let you stop wasting your time talking to me otherwise you'll be losing touch with your 200 friends aged 30-50, 50 of whom are lifelong friends and their opinions of lockdown. If you're not careful you'll not be able to speak for all of these people anymore 😂

In all seriousness, I don't mean to anger or upset you (though you will claim I haven't). I promise you I'm anything but a FRNJ or a Q fan. Have a good one pal.
You don't half make some odd comments, and make an awful lot of assumptions, anyway, I'll leave you to it.
 

Randy

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I know, but they’re still relevant, they’re not going to reverse for example, not in a month which was the last I saw.

Like I said, before the other dude diverted it, there’s less a case for lockdowns now, a lot less. There’s less of a case for it now, than there was last March, last September or last December. But there’s still a lot of support. Everyone is well aware we were far too lax most of last year and we paid the price later, the govt probably just don’t want another beating having to lock down again.

I think they’re also concerned that the hospitals still have a lot of people still taking up beds, and with us still having some colder months there’s still some time for increases. They probably want us to get passed the flu season too, to claw some excess back.
How are they relevant exactly? 5000 out of 67,000,000 isn't relevant at all. Especially when you factor in the types of people filling out these polls, which of course can be doctored to suit any narrative (you know like how many people accused the Barrington Declaration of doing so).


Numbers continue to fall. If they rise then the purpose of lockdowns will be questioned. Especially when the common man sees the scenes in mainland Europe.
 

Billy Horner

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Today's headline analysis:

• 10,406 new cases reported in 24-hour period, down from yesterday's 12,027
• 7-day average for new cases decreases by 3.6% to 11,224 per day, following 3.7% decrease yesterday (and 41st consecutive daily decrease)
• 7-day average for new cases is 19.2% lower than one week ago (from 20.3% lower yesterday) and 41.3% lower than two weeks ago (same as yesterday and 45.5% lower 7 days ago)
• 445 new deaths within 28 days of a positive test reported in 24-hour period, down from 533 yesterday
• 7-day average for new deaths within 28 days of a positive test decreases by 4.8% to 494 per day, following 5.8% decrease yesterday (and 27th decrease in the past 28 days)
• 7-day average for new deaths within 28 days of a positive test is 28.2% lower than one week ago (from 27.7% lower yesterday) and 47.0% lower than two weeks ago (from 47.3% lower yesterday and 41.6% lower 7 days ago)
 

Andy_W

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How are they relevant exactly? 5000 out of 67,000,000 isn't relevant at all. Especially when you factor in the types of people filling out these polls, which of course can be doctored to suit any narrative (you know like how many people accused the Barrington Declaration of doing so).


Numbers continue to fall. If they rise then the purpose of lockdowns will be questioned. Especially when the common man sees the scenes in mainland Europe.
I don’t really want to derail the thread any more, so this is my last comment on this, I’ll try and be brief.
A poll of 5000 can gauge public opinion quite well, provinding it’s done correctly. +80 is unlikely to end up being 50/50 or -80.

The GBD was flawed beyond belief, according to all science groups, public health and modelling groups, and it’s even more flawed now. Also we don’t have the competence, planning or infrastructure to do it, and I can’t see everyone being up for getting covid, instead of waiting for a vaccine. Every man for himself is rarely good for humanity.

Numbers likely won’t rise, not to a point where they will do significant damage, they might plateau when schools open, but we have a few weeks of reductions before we get to that. In that time beds will become free, staff will become free, and we can open up other wards again. This seems to be the main concern at the minute, but is getting better. The lockdown got us down from 1500 deaths per day and rising sharply, we’re still in lockdown as a load of them are still in hospital and we don’t need it topping up, they need clearing out.

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Andy_W

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• 7-day average for new cases is 19.2% lower than one week ago (from 20.3% lower yesterday) and 41.3% lower than two weeks ago (same as yesterday and 45.5% lower 7 days ago)
Keep up the -20% per week and we should be near 6k cases by the 8th, and maybe half the number in hospital beds, which is currently still near last years peak.

Interestingly, we have half the deaths per hospitalised case, as we did at the April peak last year, just shows how much treatment has come on. Hospitalisations per case should come down rapidly too now with the vaccine rollout.
 

bear66

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As of 9am on 21 February, 4,115,509 people have tested positive for COVID-19 in the UK.

Positive cases were 9,834.

215 deaths were reported today

129,498 deaths with Covid-19 on the death certificate (up to 5 February)

17,582,121 have had a first dose vaccination. 334,679 first dose vaccinations yesterday.
 

Billy Horner

Well-known member
Today's headline analysis:

• 9,834 new cases reported in 24-hour period, down from yesterday's 10,406
• 7-day average for new cases decreases by 1.4% to 11,062 per day, following 3.6% decrease yesterday (and 42nd consecutive daily decrease)
• 7-day average for new cases is 16.2% lower than one week ago (from 19.2% lower yesterday) and 39.7% lower than two weeks ago (from 41.3% lower yesterday and 45.6% lower 7 days ago)
• 215 new deaths within 28 days of a positive test reported in 24-hour period, down from 445 yesterday
• 7-day average for new deaths within 28 days of a positive test decreases by 1.2% to 488 per day, following 4.8% decrease yesterday (and 28th decrease in the past 29 days)
• 7-day average for new deaths within 28 days of a positive test is 27.4% lower than one week ago (from 28.2% lower yesterday) and 45.9% lower than two weeks ago (from 47.0% lower yesterday and 42.8% lower 7 days ago)
 
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