Sunderland 0 Sheffield Wednesday 2.
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Glover_elbow
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Imagine if a top manager came in like a klopp or ancelotti and told them they would never have success unless they let go of their toxic rivalry
Alzi
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He gave us a lot of problems at the Riverside. He is a very good player and was carrying Sunderland for most of the season.
TeaCider
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He's the only reason they haven't been relegated.
Got a bad ankle injury in February that saw him miss a month of the season and he stopped scoring when he came back.
BobUpnDown
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Creative & always looks a threat, does fine out wide - if a little slow - for winger in the Championship but his lack of pace could count against him getting a PL big move.. maybe back to Spurs
Does well when he's in the area, maybe a more central position could be a role for him..
It would be like weaning them off an additive drug. Itās how they identify themselves.
Geordies arenāt arsed about them these days.
Dynamo Kev
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mackem i know is one of the totally blinkered ones. great lad mind. another mackem i work with was even laughing at him earlier in the season. he thought McKenna was a good option to replace mowbray. said he'd be making a step up to join sunderland couldnt see it would be a step backwards at all, even the other mackem was laughing at his delusion.
i messaged him earlier about being in a relegation battle next season and he completely oblivious to it being a possibility. a large section of their fans will be in for a rude awakening next season when they freefall back to league 1. i dont even want them to go down. imagine being in the prem with them in league 1. please let it happen footballing gods.
i messaged him earlier about being in a relegation battle next season and he completely oblivious to it being a possibility. a large section of their fans will be in for a rude awakening next season when they freefall back to league 1. i dont even want them to go down. imagine being in the prem with them in league 1. please let it happen footballing gods.
Im fairly certain their hatred of newcastle is born out of a need to try and make themselves relevant these days. Rivalaries come from competing with one another and lets be honest they are levels apart and have been for many years now. Both clubs have completely different ambitions. Newcastle are looking to regain a champions league/european cup spot, sunderland will be lucky to finish in the top half of the championship.
Merlin
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The delusion is a kind of comfort blanket for them - an escape from the reality that theyāve been largely dog **** for the last 90 years. In fact of the 6 division one titles they won, 3 were in the 1800ās
. They cling to the āwe woz massive marraā mantra for dear life, whilst carefully omitting most of it was over a century ago TheHolgate
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They are appointing Will Still apparently. Mackems are creaming their pants about it to be fair. Last 2 seasons he has managed Reims, mid table french team. He has obviously agreed to work on a shoe string.
Nero
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Is that the lad who played football manager?
Merlin
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To use as an occasional sub, even funnierLetās go in for Clarke. That would be funny.
sambaDTR
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A few facts about himā¦
Will Still will fill the bill until they get Mowbray back but he is still run of the mill. He likes to eat dill with his friends Jill and Lil. His favourite film is āKill Billā. Managing them will be a bitter pill and their ambitions, he will not fulfill. Sunderlandās players are over the hill and most of their games will end up nil, nil.
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parmoboy
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The irony is that a lot of them say that Boro/Sunderland has never felt like a rivalry because they don't know many Boro fans, yet they don't even play Newcastle these days and still say it's a rivalry.
Surely it can't be a rivalry if you never play each other, as you said. We might as well say we have a rivalry with Darlo because they're the nearest club to us in terms of proximity.
BoroMart
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he isnt the best in the league, but he is a very good player at this level and is capable of a ten game spell where he looks like it. He can also go missing when it gets tough.
I think heāll go, but not for the kind of fee Sunderland fans think. So
Done like Ipswich or a relegated side like Burnley would probably a decent option for him.
As for the makems, yes, Iāve said before that I think they will be in trouble next year. The manager situation is a joke, the chairmen is doing it on the cheap, the fans and board are misaligned, the squad lacks quality, depth, experience, goals. The fans are ready to revolt and if they got off to a poor start things could turn toxic quickly
GazBoro
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That's what they say, but its far from the truth. It was a rivalry in the 70's, 80's, and 90's and anyone who was there knows it.
The reason why they don't want to admit its a rivalry now is because for the last 50 years they've played second fiddle to the Boro. We've beaten them far more often than they've beaten us, in fact they're lucky to see a win over Boro once every 5 years on average. We've had some fantastic players coming to play for Boro, whereas Sunderland's claim to fame has been Darren Bent and Defoe. Apart from a few years after our relegation in 2008, over those 50 years we've finished higher than them more often than not. They've also seen us win a trophy. They've also watched us enjoy European football - something they're likely never to experience.
I've said this before, but the modern day mackem is as spineless as they come. Can't take banter nor a rivalry like their grandads could (who were knobs too, but who at least had a backbone).
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parmoboy
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Yeah, I think they also like to try and belittle us as it makes them feel as though they're a bigger club than what they actually are.
They love this idea they have that we're obsessed with them and desperate for them to notice us.
The_Big_Woodowski
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I like him going forward but offers nowt defensively, when going gets tough he disappears.
Think he can create more than Jones , but overall I think Jones offers more as a team player.
Think Clarke is a luxury player , but not good enough to be a top tier luxury player which leaves him in purgatory.
Not offering enough in overall game for a bottom end perm team (prob his ceiling) , but could do a good job for a top end possession based championship team, but who could not afford to carry him in premiership.
He would not be cheap in value or wages