atypical_boro
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Not sure anything does, that’s the point. It’s not really a thing.
Shamima Begum
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It is a thing because she has. The whole post and multiple replies are centred around that it is wrong that it has been revoked.
It’s honestly scary the consensus of the general poster in this forum.
If this person is fit to live in the UK amongst the general population then where is the line drawn? What do you have to do to be considered a risk to society?
atypical_boro
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I’ve said above I think she very possibly poses a risk to society and I don’t think she can just slot back in. I don’t know what the answer is, I just know that there are lots of monstrous murderers out there who still have UK passports and the usual course of action isn’t to remove it.
We also don’t know exactly what she’s done in terms of criminal activity, and we do know she was a child when she first got involved in it/them.
Personally, I’m not suggesting we all just forget it happened though.
Stocko
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None of the “Begum back to UK“ supporters would be shouting so loud if she was going to be moved next door, “ move her to TS3 or Whinney Banks” they would cry.
sorry for those that live in TS3 or Whinney banks, twas just an example
Ladybucket
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It is really a thing, hence her losing it and being rejected by the country of her families birth
atypical_boro
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Ok, its a dangerous precedent.
Laughing
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How wrong can you be.
They start with somebody who went to join a group with the sole purpose of dishing out terror to persons of the UK and other enemy states.
Laughing
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Jesus christ you are nuts. Our government don't get to decide who is british and who isn't. If you are born british you stay british. To parrot this back at you. It scares me that you think its ok for a government to decide whether you and I are british, or not. It aint their F***ing decision to make
But it obviously is , and they have done the same to another 140 people I believe, now if their actions have prevented even the remotest chance of an innocent member of the public being harmed in any way , then I,m all for it .
As for Begum forget all this groomed b***ks , she was only 15 blah blah blah , she knew fine well what she was doing and getting into , my son is the same age , and believe me a 15 year old today is not the naive ,innocent 15 year old of 30/35 years ago , the world has changed for the worse since those days !!
She's made her bed , let her lie on it .
Redka
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Legally it clearly is!
The question to the court was asked. Does the minister have the right to take this action?
The reply was yes. But the court did express concerns about the grooming claims.
That will probably be the basis of her lawyers appeal.
The interesting part will be if she wins that appeal on those grounds. Will the government challenge the decision.
The reply was yes. But the court did express concerns about the grooming claims.
That will probably be the basis of her lawyers appeal.
The interesting part will be if she wins that appeal on those grounds. Will the government challenge the decision.
Ladybucket
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It’s highly unlikely the government would start dictating who is British unless you join a sadistic terrorist organisation.
It then becomes a grey area, as she denounced her UK citizenship to represent an Islamic state.
It is the governments decision to make hence the legal outcome.
I’m unsure where my morals are on this as I appreciate that she was 15 and has suffered personal loss over this. I also think it’s important to remember the children her terrorist organisation murdered in this country and their sadistic treatment of women and homosexuals.
It’s a tough one.
I think her family are Bangladeshi and even their government refused her entry
Laughing
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I really can't be bothered going over why this is wrong and what it means for 6 million brits.
Muttley
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Oh that's OK then.
They are only doing it to a young Muslim girl and I'm not a Muslim girl!
Why didn't I think of it this way? After all this Government has a long and unsullied reputation for integrity and reliability. Oh, wait...
Redka
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Practically - how does this work?
“Measures introduced in 2006 mean that any dual national can be deprived of their UK citizenship if the home secretary believes this would be “conducive to the public good”.
Since 2014, the measures have also applied to naturalised UK citizens who the home secretary “has reasonable grounds to believe” are eligible for foreign citizenship, even if they do not currently possess dual nationality.”
Imagine you are in the uk and deprived of citizenship and don’t have dual nationality - you can’t exactly be deported to anywhere so what happens - - you are forced to apply for dual nationality and then deported?
Muttley
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Oh dear.
Laughing
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See Mutleys post #358. Cheers Mutters, saved me the bother.
Redka
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It doesn’t really explain it or perhaps I’m not getting it.
What happens if someone is deprived of their citizenship and they are already in this country?
Colin Warnek
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Good riddance.