Shamima Begum

[Laughing]

It doesn’t really explain it or perhaps I’m not getting it.

What happens if someone is deprived of their citizenship and they are already in this country?

The home secretary would decide as the courts have no say.

Ultimately those happy with this decision are happy with a totalitarian government regime.

The issue isn't even about a young woman deprived of her birthright. It has nothing to do with national security. The issue is people responding to a right wing dog whistle and, seemingly, happy to do so.

 

[zzzzz]

Appeal refused.
Feel for the lass.
How many of us made sound decisions at the age of 15, and she was groomed.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-68372112

 

[Quicksilvera]

She is definitely a victim, this country really is not ‘Great’ Britain.

 

[Midnight to Six Man]

Yeah I must admit when I was 16 in 1978 i was offered a job by the IRA , thankfully my Dad told me to turn it down.

 

[Defender 4x4]

Would personally buy her a one way ticket from anywhere in the UK. Don't come back.

 

[ILOVEJUNINHO!]

The producers of I'm a Celebrity are already drawing up her contract no doubt

 

[Facefuzz]

Absolute right decision.

 

[Quicksilvera]

Absolute right decision.

Why?

 

[JackG]

The judges have made clear that they're not saying removal of citizenship was the right thing to do; they are just confirming that, as the law currently stands, it was lawful for the Home Secretary to make such a decision.

 

[Facefuzz]

Why?

She is a terrorist and has extreme ideology.
A Nike baseball cap won’t change that.
Threat to national security, she’ll be made a martyr and others will think they can do the same

 

[Mr Maz]

If the ICJ decide that Israel are/have committed genocide, does that mean all the UK citizens fighting for the IDF should also be stripped of their citizenship?

 

[Uncle_Marbles]

She is a terrorist and has extreme ideology.
A Nike baseball cap won’t change that.
Threat to national security, she’ll be made a martyr and others will think they can do the same

She was a silly naive 15 year old child!!

 

[Loop]

Good riddance

 

[Fosm]

Exactly. Similar to VAR, no clear and obvious error.

 

[zzzzz]

She is a terrorist and has extreme ideology.
A Nike baseball cap won’t change that.
Threat to national security, she’ll be made a martyr and others will think they can do the same

As a teenager under the influence of extremeists she said things that she now very much regrets.
I suspect she now has far less black and white extremist views on things than you do.

 

[Quicksilvera]

She is a terrorist and has extreme ideology.
A Nike baseball cap won’t change that.
Threat to national security, she’ll be made a martyr and others will think they can do the same

Im genuinely sad to read these words, she was a child who was groomed and coerced.

We need to be a lot more grown up about this.

 

[Facefuzz]

As a teenager under the influence of extremeists she said things that she now very much regrets.
I suspect she now has far less black and white extremist views on things than you do.

How could you possibly think that somebody who flew to a war zone, joined a terrorist organization, married a terrorist, had a baby with a terrorist, supported the terrorist organization, was through circumstance forced into a refugee camp and now has a grievance with uk government have more moderate views than me, teesside tommy who likes the odd beer and footy match

 

[iamborome]

There are plenty of Britons going off to Israel to join the IDF, who are engaged in genocide. I very much doubt their citizenship will be revoked.

 

[Mr Maz]

How could you possibly think that somebody who flew to a war zone, joined a terrorist organization, married a terrorist, had a baby with a terrorist, supported the terrorist organization, was through circumstance forced into a refugee camp and now has a grievance with uk government have more moderate views than me, teesside tommy who likes the odd beer and footy match

Somebody = child

The harsh truth is that if she was a white skinned, blonde haired and had blue eyes, both the outcome and comments from those who are pleased about this would be totally different.

What she did was wrong, but she was a child and her actions during that time should be with that lense in place.

 

[Facefuzz]

Her skin color has nothing to do with it. Her ideology does. Luckily in this country we’re more tolerant than the cause she joined. We rule by law whereby protected characteristics don’t feature in the outcome.
I’ve been in war zones and seen her ideology. It’s not pretty. If there is 0.00000001% chance she would be a threat then it’s the right outcome.

I’m staying away from threads like this and respect your opinion but won’t be commenting again.