Funky_Chicken
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I would be quite surprised if he’s still our manager come next May - i just don’t think he really wants to be here, particularly after not getting the players he wanted this transfer window
come on man, he inherited a team that owned Coburn, Ikpeazu and Watmore as a strikeforceHe really didn't inherit a "mess" but he created one.
Fair comment.come on man, he inherited a team that owned Coburn, Ikpeazu and Watmore as a strikeforce
a midfield that had one very good player and a lot average one paced ones
the best out an out defender we owned was a 36 year old that we did a favour after his medical scares.
We didn't own a keeper worthy of this level either.
So much work to do. We had a poor selection of backup U23 players as well.
Inherited a team that bad which warnock had sitting in a much better position than we are in now…come on man, he inherited a team that owned Coburn, Ikpeazu and Watmore as a strikeforce
a midfield that had one very good player and a lot average one paced ones
the best out an out defender we owned was a 36 year old that we did a favour after his medical scares.
We didn't own a keeper worthy of this level either.
So much work to do. We had a poor selection of backup U23 players as well.
give it 25 games and this team will above that. You have to take a couple of steps back before moving forwards sometimes. Lets not try and pretend warnock was a good manager for us, he was really bad. He got bombed out after losing at home to a rancid Birmingham team 2-0. Lets not pretend all was rosy and Warnock was a genius.Inherited a team that bad which warnock had sitting in a much better position than we are in now…
agree completely, I hoped McNair would be out a couple of matches to let Dijksteel cement his placeWhen Djiksteel came on for the last 20 mins or so against Sunderland i thought he played better than Mcnair had done all season.
Can't understand why he didn't retain his place .
I’m with you here and have said as much on another thread.Sadly I'm coming round to thinking he needs to go. His comments after the match tonight have bewildered me. Some of the tactical decision are bewildering me.
The comment: "I sometimes dont understand he level of expectation [in the boro crowd] here cause you've been out of the [Premier] division for quite a while"
If he genuinely can't see why we'd expect to be at the to end of the championship then quite simply he shouldn't be here. It's a waste of his time and ours. It makes me think he maybe sees himself as too good for us.
Similarly if he genuinely can't understand the expectation, then he can't complain about not getting the players he wanted in. If he thinks this is what we are - i.e. a bottom half champo side - then quite simply we shouldn't be bidding £10m on young untested strikers.
The tactical decisions:
1) leaving Dijksteel out. Jones was our best player last season. He's had his best games working with Crooks and Dijksteel. Surely anyone would keep that trio together as often as possible. Especially so after losing Tavs pace on the other side.
2) at 2-3 down tonight, with 5 minutes injury time to go, he takes Fry off and has Crooks playing as one of the sweepers. That's our top scorer from last season. We're about to get balls in the box, get him up there. Obviously.
3) we've gone from a passing team with two forwards to a long ball team with one. That doesn't make any sense. If we're just punting balls into the box get 2 forwards on and give us a chance. If we're using McGree as a 10 we should be focusing even more on quick passing moves.
4) I don't understand what he's doing with Forss and Hoppe. Okay maybe they weren't his first choice signings. But they're here now. They're our assets. If we're going to follow a Brentford style system he needs to give them opportunities.
Nobody should be marking Ng but Clarke it's a simple one two you follow your man end of story. It's simply shíte defending.Sadly I'm coming round to thinking he needs to go. His comments after the match tonight have bewildered me. Some of the tactical decision are bewildering me.
The comment: "I sometimes dont understand the level of expectation [in the boro crowd] here cause you've been out of the [Premier] division for quite a while"
If he genuinely can't see why we'd expect to be at the top end of the championship then quite simply he shouldn't be here. It's a waste of his time and ours. It makes me think he maybe sees himself as too good for us.
Similarly if he genuinely can't understand the expectation, then he can't complain about not getting the players he wanted in. If he thinks this is what we are - i.e. a bottom half champo side - then we certainly shouldn't be bidding £10m on young untested strikers.
The tactical decisions:
1) leaving Dijksteel out. Jones was our best player last season. He's had his best games working with Crooks and Dijksteel. Surely anyone would keep that trio together as often as possible. Especially so after losing Tavs pace on the other side.
2) at 2-3 down tonight, with 5 minutes injury time to go, he takes Fry off and has Crooks playing as one of the sweepers. That's our top scorer from last season. We're about to get balls in the box, get him up there. Obviously.
3) we've gone from a passing team with two forwards to a long ball team with one. That doesn't make any sense. If we're just punting balls into the box get 2 forwards on and give us a chance. If we're using McGree as a 10 we should be focusing even more on quick passing moves.
4) I don't understand what he's doing with Forss and Hoppe. Okay maybe they weren't his first choice signings. But they're here now. They're our assets. If we're going to follow a Brentford style system he needs to give them opportunities.
5) the weird criticisms. He's had a go at Crooks for too many bookings. Dijksteel for not enough bookings. Fry for clearing the ball instead of playing out. Look at tonights goals against us. 1st one we need Crooks to take a booking. Second we need Howson to clear the ball. These mistakes are happening imo because players are trying to follow his complaints/instructions.
6) somebody else already said it but players don't seem to know what they're meant to be doing. The 3rd goal past us tonight, Ng goes past Clarke and rather than follow him into the box Clarke's looking around trying to figure out who's meant to be marking him.
Whatever he inherited... he made it worse. A lot worse.He inherited a mess, and he said ti would take two full summer transfer windows to sort the squad out, he's had one. Pointless changing manager all the time. He has a problem to solve, let him get on with it.
That includes discarding most if the players he brought in. Players who are dank and others who can't even get into a sh show of a starting 11.We're in a poor moment, but that's part of the process I'm afraid.
He's made mistakes, but he's also found a lot out about the players and which ones will need discarding on this journey.
I think you might have a point.Part of my issue is that Wilder doesn’t seem to be able to identify a good player though. He didn’t play Balogun (who is now scoring regularly), loved Connolly (who isn’t) spent big money on McBurnie and Brewster who are both shocking. So what’s to say Payero wasn’t good enough?
Because if it’s his opinion, I’m not sure I trust it.