InglebyUTB
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Red Faction - Ticket Price Statement
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Let it go lads
Yes we have some of highest walkup prices in the league, but if you cant afford to go you cant afford to go.
I know football is different but if i feel something is overpriced i wont buy it regardless of how much i love something.
Making football affordable to all would be fantastic, but from a business/economical point of view it just isnt viable and MFC arent a charity theyre a business at the end of the day and if a business runs at a loss it ultimately goes under (unless you have someone pumping money into the club like we do)
Yes we have some of highest walkup prices in the league, but if you cant afford to go you cant afford to go.
I know football is different but if i feel something is overpriced i wont buy it regardless of how much i love something.
Making football affordable to all would be fantastic, but from a business/economical point of view it just isnt viable and MFC arent a charity theyre a business at the end of the day and if a business runs at a loss it ultimately goes under (unless you have someone pumping money into the club like we do)
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The football model in this country is ****ed. Fans get ripped off every week. We simply pay the footballers and agents to much for what they are worth. Bang average players on stupid money.
Some people point to the government and cost of living. It’s nothing to do with that.
The simple fact is a second tier game shouldn’t be anywhere near £30. A third tier game no where near £20.
When you look at wages across Europe and compare with ours they’re quite close. Spain, germany and Italy for example but you can go see a top tier game there for less than €20. Ac Milan starts at €12/€14 for some games and flights are normally available for less than £100 return. It’s cheaper to go there than to a championship game on the train
Some people point to the government and cost of living. It’s nothing to do with that.
The simple fact is a second tier game shouldn’t be anywhere near £30. A third tier game no where near £20.
When you look at wages across Europe and compare with ours they’re quite close. Spain, germany and Italy for example but you can go see a top tier game there for less than €20. Ac Milan starts at €12/€14 for some games and flights are normally available for less than £100 return. It’s cheaper to go there than to a championship game on the train
Frozen Horse
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"Make football affordable for all" is a nice slogan and an admirable sentiment.
However, in an age when people are using food banks and choosing between food and heating, the only way to do that is to give tickets away for free.
We have to fix these issues on a societal level, and not naively think a football club can solve them.
However, in an age when people are using food banks and choosing between food and heating, the only way to do that is to give tickets away for free.
We have to fix these issues on a societal level, and not naively think a football club can solve them.
TeaCider
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"Let it go, if you can't afford to go, you can't afford to go"
F***ing hell, some of our fans are clowns
Our prices are significantly higher than virtually every club in the division, they've just increased them and they're going to increase it again.
If you can't complain now, when can you?
We're not where we are in the table because the club has scraped £1m extra from the fans with extortionate prices compared to every other club in the division bar Norwich.
F***ing hell, some of our fans are clowns
Our prices are significantly higher than virtually every club in the division, they've just increased them and they're going to increase it again.
If you can't complain now, when can you?
We're not where we are in the table because the club has scraped £1m extra from the fans with extortionate prices compared to every other club in the division bar Norwich.
That was my point MFC is a business at the end of the day not a charity
Each to their own ..
But since when did the RF dictate what MFC could and couldnt charge/do. Everything has gone up, it wasnt that long ago discussions were being held about 1pm kickoffs to save clubs on their rising electricity bills
Id like to drive a newer car than the one i have, but i cant afford to so i have to make do with the one i have
Everything revolves around finance and good business model/sense
The day a season card becomes too expensive/unjustifyable is the day i choose to walk away from supporting my team (in person).
I stopped going to away games (by choice) such as Leeds, as much as i enjoyed them when an away ticket went over £30 i just cant justify it. I havent been in the Boro end there for a long time now (wasnt it £39 last time we played there?) I refuse to pay that to watch a standard league game of football
Even during the guff we were served up under Strachan and Mowbray not renewing wasnt an option as I could afford it and knew i wouldnt pay walkup prices once i was no longer a season card holder
I can still watch games by other means. until then i will put my season card on a 0% interest credit card and pay it off at a level/time that suits myself
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Air Resistance
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Can anyone actually provide some proof that our ticket prices are significantly more than the division average?
A quick Google seems to show our most expensive ST is the 6th most expensive in the division.
A quick Google seems to show our most expensive ST is the 6th most expensive in the division.
FishofContemplation
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I've said I'd like to see concessions for recipients of certain benefits. Some clubs did this in the 1980s. It's a sight easier now with so much being based on individual accounts and online bookings. So the answer to that is, concessions for recipients of Pension Credit. And all low income benefits, for the young as as well. How is that not better than the blunt instrument of giving not just the likes of my comfortable dad (and me soon enough) but Rishi Sunak's multi-billionaire father in law if he wanted to come, money off their tickets, but expecting struggling thirty somethings and students to pay full whack?
breakthewallsdown
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A quick google from 21/22 show's that only Bournemouth had higher prices than us that season.
EDIT - Found this quote on this seasons prices -
'The most expensive ticket to be found in the division belongs to both Bristol City and Middlesbrough. Each club has season tickets on sale at an eye-watering £675 for seats in central locations within their respective stadiums. Boro also have the highest starting price when it comes to purchasing a new ticket, with their early bird scheme having now passed. Adult fans wishing to purchase a season ticket from fresh must fork out a minimum of £514 - an average of £22 per game'
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FishofContemplation
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Even if that's true you still need to justify the blunt instrument of an age-based concession. And the demographic you are giving it to is still on average the second best off in disposable income terms, behind only their still working immediate juniors. So you can't. Some of them are poor. Some of them aren't. More twentysomethings are poor, although some of them aren't. More thirtysomethings are poor, although some of them aren't. That's unarguable. All the data says so.
I'd say either you do an individualised concession for individuals who are struggling. Or if that's too hard you do one for age groups that are poorer on average. The current concession is neither. It's one for an age group that is richer on average. I may be about to join it but it really can't be justified.
CarrickBall
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You don’t expect to be able to get to every match you want to?
I can understand why.. since you’ve only been to 3 games this season. Why on earth would you expect to be able to get priority access to a ticket to any game you want when you’ve only been to 3 games this season?
On the other hand… those that have committed time and money every single week, done the 05:00 starts to get to Cardiff, went to work after having a couple of hours kip after a long midweek away game, spent every weekend giving their time and money to supporting their team.. those fans should 100% get priority access to high demand tickets. They shouldn’t miss out to those that can’t be arsed putting in the effort and only want to go to the juicy games.
What part of that don’t you agree with?
Alexander Supertramp
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I’ll let a lot of things go, but i draw the line at being labelled a “Tory” by some sanctimonious tvvat in Spain. Yes, in Spain.
How are your recent contributions to the UK economy @Malaguena
Humpty
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The RF don't dictate anything to the club. They are at the mercy of the clubs decisions like everyone else. The difference being they've created a voice for themselves by being organised and by giving support to the team in numbers. This gives them a little bit of leverage to allow them to lobby the club. Get the chip off your shoulder. Are you annoyed because they have a notable voice and you don't?
They are the only supporters group standing up for fans rights. Why wouldn't you give them support?
r00fie1
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It appears you may have some unfinished business living rent free somewhere?
Its unfair to transfer your frustrations to the 20+ lads in "Red Faction".
"Id like to drive a newer car than the one i have..":
Whether you have a Humber Sprite or a Ford Zodiac has naff all to do with an enthusiastic Band of Brothers in the South Stand.
Your knowledge of economics is clearly above the rest of us - "Everything revolves around finance and good business model/sense"
Jolly good show! Rule Brittania!
You could have explained your concerns to the rf08 lads in the Fan Zone before the game yesterday.
Go with the flow and let your hair down.
Shift your season card to Block 63 - I think theres about three spaces available [could be out on that].
Get with the beat
weststandwally
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The early bird price is reasonable but it is quite a jump for new/returning ST holders as a one off extra payment as long as they continue to renew.
Quicksilvera
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You make a great point about authorities implementing restrictions but they haven’t and won’t. As the price of life goes up so will the price of football, it’s a hobby and a choice at the end of they day.
Frozen Horse
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And that was the whole point of the model the club adopted. It was about retaining ST holders.
The club will feel that strategy has worked. It has kept gates and income far higher following our most recent relegation than the model used following the previous relegation.
The criticism is that it will deter new customers. That doesn't seem to be how it's working out: gates are very healthy and the number of ST holders is growing year on year. The message that it's worth the initial outlay is being understood.
Am I happy that some can't afford to go to football? No; I've made my views on that clear earlier in the thread. I don't mind red faction making their point, I think it is well-motivated if somewhat superficial and naive. Their energy would be better spent getting involved in local politics and petitioning their MPs, rather than making banners and petitioning a football club
Quicksilvera
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Let’s not forget the club haven’t said anything regarding this nor any other supporters group, it’s purely hearsay from RF08.