Jedi boro
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Who knows, the tories might even stop taking all those Russian donations to the party now.
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Putin to recognise the independence of two breakaway regions in eastern Ukraine
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Sisyphus
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And repay them, whilst at the same time seizing the assets of those who have bought (for £2m) a UK passport.
uncle_rico
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Strangely, there doesn’t appear to be any footage or photos of Russian or unmarked vehicles entering Ukraine. Or at least not yet anyway.
TeessideCleveland
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Think there has been near Donetsk mate. Will try and find link. Saw it on Sky and Guardian
.Bill Bruder was on the radio last week talking about Russian money in the UK, claiming that his Magnitsky act was designed to do the job of freezing those Russian accounts and property portfolios.
The interesting part was about Putin himself.
Putin, he said does have a lot of money being laundered here, but you will never see his name on any accounts or ownership papers.
Everything is done through proxies.
But according to him the top 5 of these people is known, in fact financial authorities are aware of all those acting for Putin…there is more than these 5
So it remains to be seen now if this corrupt cabal of a government are willing to press that particular button.
Because according to Bruder that would really hurt Putin and open a can of worms about the real influence of Russian money.
TeessideCleveland
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Ukraine crisis: President Zelenskyy to consider breaking off diplomatic ties with Russia after tanks reported in Donetsk
No insignia were visible, but the appearance of the vehicles came hours after Vladimir Putin signed friendship treaties with the two separatist regions and ordered Russian troops to deploy on what Moscow called a peacekeeping operation.
news.sky.com
This was on sky news at 413am
TeessideCleveland
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Wasn't there a Biden distinction a couple of weeks back between 'incursion' and 'invasion' - which he had to quickly backtrack on - indicating (I guess) that going into the 2 breakaway republics would not be seen as quite as serious as elsewhere?
Jedi boro
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They argue that Russian troops were already present in these locations so it’s nothing new in that sense.
Druss_The_Legend
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If financial sanctions are put in place regarding russian interests in the UK, how would that affect clubs owned by Russian people such as Chelsea(is Everton also owned by Russians)? I honestly don't really understand what happens and what difference it makes to a nation when sanctions are put in place. I'm not really up on politics although I have took more of an interest since COVID started.
TeaCider
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That's what spurred Abramovich to get Israeli citizenship and Portuguese citizenship after the events of 2014.
He's now a triple national, and not solely Russian, so he may be able to circumvent many of the issues.
TeessideCleveland
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RUSSIA’S FOREIGN MINISTRY SAYS RUSSIA RECOGNISES BREAKAWAY UKRAINIAN REPUBLICS WITHIN BORDERS THAT THEY CURRENTLY CONTROL - IFAX (Via Reuters)
DrummerMan
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I think 1 of the following will happen
1) Russia will stop with these 'new' regions
2) they will invade the rest of Ukraine and it will be bloody guerrilla warfare... 10 times worse as seen in Afghanistan / Iraq
1) Russia will stop with these 'new' regions
2) they will invade the rest of Ukraine and it will be bloody guerrilla warfare... 10 times worse as seen in Afghanistan / Iraq
Jedi boro
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Be ironic if they move it to Chelsea or arsenals ground.
Piccadilly Day Tripper
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We know how it goes in our country:
Government caught on the hop about what is really happening on the ground, following weeks of 'we know best' statements (just like Afghanistan)
Lots of blustering soundbites that sound like things cut out of an episode of Frasier "the Russian will feel the steel trap of sanctions if boots land on Ukranian soil" - that sort of nonsense
Opposition, media, commentators, general public will ask the Tories are you going to come down hard on all the ill-gotten funds slushing around London and stuffed in the pockets of vested interests across government that was first encouraged by Cameron and Osbourne following their election. No real answer will be forthcoming.
Russia invades Ukraine. Apologists such as Aaron Banks, Farage, and other right wingers will say well, it was Russian land all along anyway. The hard left will welcome the growth of a new 'bloc' next door to the EU.
Brexit Britain sits idly by as it is compromised on all fronts in response to this (hypocrisy on international law, energy requirements, political capital with other nations, financial interests). We are basically a landing strip for actual US power now.
Government caught on the hop about what is really happening on the ground, following weeks of 'we know best' statements (just like Afghanistan)
Lots of blustering soundbites that sound like things cut out of an episode of Frasier "the Russian will feel the steel trap of sanctions if boots land on Ukranian soil" - that sort of nonsense
Opposition, media, commentators, general public will ask the Tories are you going to come down hard on all the ill-gotten funds slushing around London and stuffed in the pockets of vested interests across government that was first encouraged by Cameron and Osbourne following their election. No real answer will be forthcoming.
Russia invades Ukraine. Apologists such as Aaron Banks, Farage, and other right wingers will say well, it was Russian land all along anyway. The hard left will welcome the growth of a new 'bloc' next door to the EU.
Brexit Britain sits idly by as it is compromised on all fronts in response to this (hypocrisy on international law, energy requirements, political capital with other nations, financial interests). We are basically a landing strip for actual US power now.
buffaloboro
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Always have been since 1939