New Season Tickets on sale for 2024/25

Inoffthebar said:
What was the response from the supporters forum? Is that in relation to this years increases and is it available anywhere to read/see? Cheers.
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Should be available here https://boro.support/statement-from-msf-regarding-ticket-prices-for-2023-24/

I have not looked for the minutes of the meeting they are referring to, so I am not sure how robustly the business case was scrutinised. I suppose that the manner of communication was not discussed or the deadline. I think the assumption has been that fans would have an issue with the headline price so the majority of the statement speaks to that.
 
I personally don't take huge umbridge with the price increase. £30 isn't going to make or break my decision to renew or not.
But the early deadline is rediculous. People (myself included) generally have to budget for big expenses like these and the deadline date of mid March means one less payslip to spread the cost over. (compared to last season - which is what I had based my budgeting on)
This coupled with a 'not so' interest free option is a real kicker. Which I'm sure lots of fans rely on to fund their season tickets.

I certainly view all things boro through rose tinted glasses, but this really has left me pretty darn annoyed.
 
Boro4life said:
It's the fact we already have among highest in the league magority charge half what we do. Then you have the short 1 month deadline hardly any time for people to get funds togeather. Then you have the email they sent that doesn't even acknowledge or thank you for your support
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Yep and i suspect we have bigger wage bills than most of those clubs you’re talking about too. We’re consistently one the biggest spenders and biggest payers in the championship. How do you think we’re going to pay for all that ? Gibson isn’t daft, they will have worked what we need to keep the club competitive and on an even keel. I agree club communication and customer relations is poor but if he did drop prices then everyone would be moaning about buying bargain bucket signings when we can’t afford to sign anyone decent - you can’t have it all ways you know.
 
Boro4life said:
Is the deadline middle of March so they get the revenue to put in this year's set of accounts?
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Yeah presumably, April 5th for end of tax year, a week for payments to clear and a week for luck.

I have no idea when the FFP accounts are calculated from though or if it’s different. Thought it was all revenue in by June 30th for 1 years’ FFP? That’s what I read about Chelsea’s end of the season firesale anyway.
 
I`ll renew I understand the kickback, some will be paying for up 4 season tickets ( I used to ) ands its a dear do without the increase. I think it will drop off m massively judging by the reaction on here.
 
Merlin said:
Yep and i suspect we have bigger wage bills than most of those clubs you’re talking about too. We’re consistently one the biggest spenders and biggest payers in the championship. How do you think we’re going to pay for all that ? Gibson isn’t daft, they will have worked what we need to keep the club competitive and on an even keel. I agree club communication and customer relations is poor but if he did drop prices then everyone would be moaning about buying bargain bucket signings when we can’t afford to sign anyone decent - you can’t have it all ways you know.
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Hard to tell for certain but the club appear to have more revenue coming in from player sales than ever, better wage control/structure and fewer large transfer fees.

The reality is this price increase in the best case scenario is only going to bring in about an extra £1million. That’s assuming it doesn’t reduce the number of people who renew, which it will. Even at championship level, I don’t think many fans would have rather an extra £1m player than a price freeze.

Regardless - fans can’t understand the decision if the club don’t explain it. Is it needed because we are sailing too close to the FFP limit, are they investing in the stadium, have specific non player operating costs gone up? Any sort of understandable justification would be nice. Or if it’s just a case of trying to maximise the value from that area of income then it’s shows a big move away from the club being about the supporters.
 
Merlin said:
This is quite a meltdown some are having on here for a price rise equivalent to about an extra 57p a week 🤣
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You need to look at the bigger picture. This is the third year running that prices have gone up. That's a big percentage increase from what people were paying three years ago. Also you're not taking into consideration families who attend and may have three or four season tickets. It's a lot more than 57p then.

The harsh reality is that Steve Gibson has completely lost touch with the Teesside public. We have one of the most expensive season ticket prices in the league yet we are a mid table team in one of the most deprived areas of the country. There's been a massive backlash from these announcements and he's had it coming. The child ticket prices in particular are horrific. He obviously doesn't see the importance of building a future fan base and only looks at the here and now. Very short sighted if you ask me.
 
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This has probably been said over the last 20 pages…

…but I see a lot of outrage on Twitter about the price increases. If people are unhappy they should vote with their feet and not renew. It is the only way that the club will get the message. I’d imagine that hardly anyone in meaningful numbers will do this. The club know that too.
 
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DidsburySmog92 said:
Should be available here https://boro.support/statement-from-msf-regarding-ticket-prices-for-2023-24/

I have not looked for the minutes of the meeting they are referring to, so I am not sure how robustly the business case was scrutinised. I suppose that the manner of communication was not discussed or the deadline. I think the assumption has been that fans would have an issue with the headline price so the majority of the statement speaks to that.
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What’s bonkers is we only get on average £12.50 per fan!

I’ve been saying tickets have been too expensive for some time now. That is why I got rid of my ST years ago and sadly only attend a couple of games a year. I could afford to go to more but I struggle to justify nearly £40pp per game and associated expenses. Me and the wife, fuel etc, could pay for the weekly shop with that cash.

The club are in a bind but I don’t agree with fans paying another 8%.
 
Merlin said:
Yep and i suspect we have bigger wage bills than most of those clubs you’re talking about too. We’re consistently one the biggest spenders and biggest payers in the championship. How do you think we’re going to pay for all that ? Gibson isn’t daft, they will have worked what we need to keep the club competitive and on an even keel. I agree club communication and customer relations is poor but if he did drop prices then everyone would be moaning about buying bargain bucket signings when we can’t afford to sign anyone decent - you can’t have it all ways you know.
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Well if they lose 1500 STs because of this poor decision it will have backfired as they'll lose ST revenue. It's very likely they'll lose in excess of 1500 STs.
 
Decent_Left said:
You compared our prices to Man Utd. At the Boro you pay and the club says thanks.

Man U includes a shed load of admin.

Must buy cup tickets
Not attending Must electronically transfer including details of the transferee to the club
Must attend 75% of all the games or you don’t get invited to renew next season
Miss 6 in a row and the ticket can be withdrawn mid season.

Not quite like for like.
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Firstly, I didn’t compare prices between the two clubs, my point was that their renewal email showed a bit more appreciation and passion towards their season ticket holders compared to the email we received; and that point has rightly been highlighted by other Boro fans on this thread.
All you are doing is showing your displeasure for Manchester United, which of course is your entitlement. If their admin is so poor, as you point out, then it doesn’t appear to affect 60+k season ticket holders at that club.
 
Meanwhile my mate from Southampton will renew for 355 quid again.

I haven't had a season ticket for over a decade now because I thought it wasn't value for money even back then, get's further and further away from value each year.
 
Chappy112 said:
Meanwhile my mate from Southampton will renew for 355 quid again.

I haven't had a season ticket for over a decade now because I thought it wasn't value for money even back then, get's further and further away from value each year.
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Likely to be Premier League football as well
 
B_G said:
Likely to be Premier League football as well
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Yup or at worst a very entertaining season for them. He reckons new season tickets are about 400 quid, ours are gonna be over 600 by the looks of it. Absolutely no one in their right mind should be defending it.

I saw someone say we have one of the highest wage bills, not sure about that anymore. We're probably midtable.
 
Merlin said:
Yep and i suspect we have bigger wage bills than most of those clubs you’re talking about too. We’re consistently one the biggest spenders and biggest payers in the championship. How do you think we’re going to pay for all that ? Gibson isn’t daft, they will have worked what we need to keep the club competitive and on an even keel. I agree club communication and customer relations is poor but if he did drop prices then everyone would be moaning about buying bargain bucket signings when we can’t afford to sign anyone decent - you can’t have it all ways you know.
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Our model is to sign bargain bucket players and sell them on for a profit. We are hardly doing what we did under Monk are we
 
Chappy112 said:
Yup or at worst a very entertaining season for them. He reckons new season tickets are about 400 quid, ours are gonna be over 600 by the looks of it. Absolutely no one in their right mind should be defending it.

I saw someone say we have one of the highest wage bills, not sure about that anymore. We're probably midtable.
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According to this article posted yesterday... We are 10th in terms of salary spending (y)
A full article basically ridiculing our ST prices.

footballleagueworld.co.uk

Do Middlesbrough supporters really get value for money at the Riverside?

For the money they are paying in season ticket prices, Middlesbrough fans are not really getting value for money this season.
footballleagueworld.co.uk footballleagueworld.co.uk
 
jonny_greenings_sock said:
Yeah presumably, April 5th for end of tax year, a week for payments to clear and a week for luck.

I have no idea when the FFP accounts are calculated from though or if it’s different. Thought it was all revenue in by June 30th for 1 years’ FFP? That’s what I read about Chelsea’s end of the season firesale anyway.
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All of this season ticket revenue that the club will receive in the next month will be reported in the accounts for the year to 30 June 2025, 5 April 2024 wont have any relevance. The club must need/want the cash in, but the timing of when we pay wont have an impact on the accounts/FFP calculations
 
Boro4life said:
Our model is to sign bargain bucket players and sell them on for a profit. We are hardly doing what we did under Monk are we
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Depends on what you call bargain bucket - Lath cost £4.7m if i remember rightly, Engel £1.7m Rogers £1.5m
 
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