Mowbray - You're a WEASEL

Uwefuchs said:
I think some people are annoyed because Mowbray wasn't as angry as they were yesterday. His perspective of the situation is always going to be completely different to our fans sat at home.

He is a big Boro fan but I imagine he takes his job at Blackburn pretty seriously as well. For those 90 minutes his love for the club will go completely out of the window which i understand.
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Most fair minded fans understand he is Blackburn manager and was speaking to his clubs fans and protecting his player. I said that yesterday in my condemnation of his interview. He was as Blackburn manager imho mealy-mouthed and unprofessional. Boromart on this thread summed up well what he could and should have done. It would have been the professional thing to do and saved himself, his family, his club and his player a whole load of grief that has erupted by his personal failure to correctly address and put to bed what was nearly, not just a career threatening injury, but a life changing one too.
 
coluka said:
Most fair minded fans understand he is Blackburn manager and was speaking to his clubs fans and protecting his player. I said that yesterday in my condemnation of his interview. He was as Blackburn manager imho mealy-mouthed and unprofessional. Boromart on this thread summed up well what he could and should have done. It would have been the professional thing to do and saved himself, his family, his club and his player a whole load of grief that has erupted by his personal failure to correctly address and put to bed what was nearly, not just a career threatening injury, but a life changing one too.
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His comments weren't remotely unprofessional in my eyes. Maybe insensitive to Dael Fry or to a section of our support but I don't see anything unprofessional with his interview afterwards at all.
 
Uwefuchs said:
The ball is there and he attempts to clear it, thats what defenders do 1000s of times in training throughout their lives. Its not a conscious, rational thought process.
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It was a cowardly decision, he could have gone in with his head I mean the ball was 6 foot in the air, but, it was possible he could have taken a blow to the head throwing himself into a header from a poor position. So he took the cowardly option of rputting his foot up for the challenge. That's the crux of this, it was a cowardly attempt to clear the ball.
 
Uwefuchs said:
I'm not sure consideration for the oppositions safety really comes into the coaching manual. Obviously no one wants to endager an opponent but your focus in that situation is generally on your position and clearing the ball.
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I guess you've never done any badges then!
 
BoroMart said:
It was a cowardly decision, he could have gone in with his head I mean the ball was 6 foot in the air, but, it was possible he could have taken a blow to the head throwing himself into a header from a poor position. So he took the cowardly option of rputting his foot up for the challenge. That's the crux of this, it was a cowardly attempt to clear the ball.
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Its not a conscious decision
 
GazC_MFC said:
The only conclusion is boromart thinks every decision through on the football field before making them
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His leg didn't raise 6 feet high by magic, he made the conscious decision to put his foot where his head should have been. You can use whatever condescending nonsense you want to deflect, the defender made the poor and dangerous decision to put his foot that high, when people were trying to head the ball.
 
Uwefuchs said:
Is hilarious that people think players weigh up the pros and cons of a decision within a hundredth of a second!
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They do, and the less experienced and less time they have, the worse the decision tends to be. I can accept he made a poor decision based on inexperience. But it was his decision. He should have flung his own head to the ball at that height.
 
Uwefuchs said:
His comments weren't remotely unprofessional in my eyes. Maybe insensitive to Dael Fry or to a section of our support but I don't see anything unprofessional with his interview afterwards at all.
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Well if you think mealy-mouthed words are the sign of professionalism regarding the incident, that surprises me. Had he acknowledged the incident just by saying the lads boot was high and his team and player got lucky (all true and not being disrespectful to anyone) then gone on to say the lad meant no harm and defended him but acknowledging there is no place for that in the game and he is sure it wont happen again etc that is professional and draws a line.

Unfortunately his words ignited the already lit blue touch paper and the almighty eruption that followed will live long in the memory for me and, by the sounds of it, many other fair minded fans too. He was unprofessional toward a fellow manager in that interview too btw.
 
Alvez_48 said:
Here's how a decent human and manager who has deep connections to the club and area would have handled it:-

'Yes I saw that incident and I'll be honest it's a penalty and sending off. I know Branthwaite and he definitely didn't mean to hurt Dael he's a good kid. This is actually more my fault, I spoke to the lads in the dressing room and said you have to fight for every ball because Middlesbrough are a very good team who will be up for the challenge. I hope Dael is well, I will be reaching out to him and Neil.'
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Yes thats probably right, but being interviewed just after the game its understandable that he didnt want to discuss it further, especially if he hadnt watched any replays
 
BoroMart said:
He's a real person, not a FIFA player, he isn't controlled by someone else. He made the decision to put his foot there....if as, you say, he didn't, then who did?
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Theres a difference between a conscious decision and a reaction. If I stood five yards away from you and blasted a ball at your face you'd react (likely flinch).

You wouldn't weigh up the finer points of your reaction in a split second.
 
Uwefuchs said:
Like I keep saying it was a reaction to put his foot up, not a considered decision. If he makes too many of those mistakes and starts giving away penalties then his career will be pretty short lived anyway.

I didnt know he was smirking after what happened, if that's true and its not done out of embarrassment then he deserves criticism.
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He was certainly smirking at Warnock after the game, and acted aggressively towards him, pretending to want to get at him once enough players were in the way to ensure that he couldn't get at him. I'm actually embarrassed for him.
 
Uwefuchs said:
Theres a difference between a conscious decision and a reaction. If I stood five yards away from you and blasted a ball at your face you'd react (likely flinch).
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The ball travelled a long way, he made the decision to go with his foot not his head. Your 5 yard analogy doesn't count because McNair wasn't 5 yards away when he lobbed it in, he was 35 yards away
 
coluka said:
Well if you think mealy-mouthed words are the sign of professionalism regarding the incident, that surprises me. Had he acknowledged the incident just by saying the lads boot was high and his team and player got lucky (all true and not being disrespectful to anyone) then gone on to say the lad meant no harm and defended him but acknowledging there is no place for that in the game and he is sure it wont happen again etc that is professional and draws a line.

Unfortunately his words ignited the already lit blue touch paper and the almighty eruption that followed will live long in the memory for me and, by the sounds of it, many other fair minded fans too. He was unprofessional toward a fellow manager in that interview too btw.
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Some people are furious with Mowbray, others aren't, thats the beauty of having the ability to see the world in different ways.

What I try to do sometimes is take off my red, rose tinted specs and view situations in football without the emotions of tribalism.
 
JM14 said:
Yes thats probably right, but being interviewed just after the game its understandable that he didnt want to discuss it further, especially if he hadnt watched any replays
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I appreciate what you're saying but then to double down on it later and the next day suggests that Mogga is in fact no longer the person a lot of us thought he is.

Anyway I just hope Dael is ok today and isn't in too much pain, I also hope this doesn't impact him too hard mentally. I wouldn't be at all surprised to see him pull out of a few aerial duals when defending corners now. I'll not hold it against him, something like that stays with you.
 
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