Morgan Rogers fee

What transfer fee will we get for Rogers?

  • <£5m

    Votes: 7 2.8%

  • £5-10m

    Votes: 95 38.2%

  • £10-15m

    Votes: 103 41.4%

  • >£15m

    Votes: 25 10.0%

  • £12.5m (Boro's standard negotiating fee)

    Votes: 19 7.6%
  • Total voters
    249
Jonny_Rondos_Disco_pants said:
The buys players who are rough diamonds with the hope they develop so we can shift them on at a profit. It’s our clubs model.

We have no idea of his contract or the deal with City. The club will have a trigger point value that will see him sold.

I think a clear £3-4m deal profit would see him sold which isn’t bad for 6 months development.
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Agree but not the profit level I’d expect the club to want a clear £5million+ maybe even 6 profit, £3 million isnt worth it, when you factor in cost of a replacement, cost of getting the deal done agent fees etc, scouting time and costs, the effort put into training and coaching him, the disruption to the team.
 
ShotleyBoro said:
Ok, I’m biting on this. (I’ll accept the ridicule and it’s purely on your fee assumptions ) forget the person, if you had £1.5m in August and you could exchange today for £3m minimum and rising based on some criteria would you not take it? Double your money in 6 months? L
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Most people don’t do that in real life. People hold onto shares and crypto as they think it will grow more
 
TeaCider said:
https://twitter.com/x/status/1748972390581690537

If this article from the Athletic is to be believed, we paid nearly £2m for him, which is more than I thought.

So that makes getting a higher fee even more important.

£6.5m would not be a good fee at all.
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He speaks well in this article but it’s weird reading him talking about and stressing the importance of just getting to be on the pitch on the play for him, but then I don’t know how to square that away with the idea of him wanting to go to Villa where he almost certainly will not play.
 
Of course a general reasonable valuation of Rogers right now would not be above £6-8m, but that is irrelevant.

1. We don't need to sell him and certainly not right now.
2. His market value is liable to increase if his development continues to season end.
3. His value is actually what somebody is prepared to pay and if Villa/Emery really want him - and want him now - then there is a premium they should be forced to pay.
4. If there is a proportion of any fee that will go to Man City then this obviously has to be included - or added - to that premium.
5. We will have to replace him with similar quality immediately, which will cost a significant package, which itself will represent a premium to value based on the time we have to arrange such a deal in 10 days.

It strikes me as selling him now for anything under £15m will not happen - unless a deal for somebody else has already been put in place.
 
For me Rogers wants to go, if rumours are to be true, he is a villa fan too, so he will certainly want to go but he is our player and we don't need to sell so rightly or not the fee needs to be inflated, if and when our demands are met, Rogers will leave in this window but I feel it will be to the detriment of his progressing as I don't think he is ready for the Premier league yet so he will most likely take a place on the bench and the likelihood is he will sign deadline day so no loan out to another club unless into Europe maybe?

I would not want to retain Rogers on loan no matter what if he wants to leave he leaves and good luck to him as long as we get the correct deal that works for the club not the fans as we will all have a different figure.
 
He didn't look like a 10m plus player yesterday, against bottom of the league Rotherham, another hit and miss performance from him.
Lost the ball in a crazy position in the first half, and lucky we were not punished for it.
Second half, one skillful flick which led to the goal.
Think 8m plus and the club will sell, no way he gets a game in the Villa squad.
 
What a players market value is doesn't always equate to what he means to the particular football club,none of us are privy to the financial situation at the club but that unfortunately could be a driving force in us maybe needing to sell.

I also feel by indicating there is a price we would be willing to sell and the players enthusiasm for the move has weakened our bargaining position.
 
Alwaysaborolad said:
He didn't look like a 10m plus player yesterday, against bottom of the league Rotherham, another hit and miss performance from him.
Lost the ball in a crazy position in the first half, and lucky we were not punished for it.
Second half, one skillful flick which led to the goal.
Think 8m plus and the club will sell, no way he gets a game in the Villa squad.
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I’m with you on this. He put so many passes astray yesterday and seems ponderous in most games I watch. He’s the last player I assumed a top club would come in for.

Saying that, to bring balance, maybe he is perfect in a top side. He can produce occasional intricacies like yesterday. He is young and who knows, he may have been nervous yesterday knowing Villa were watching him. Apart from the assist, it’s the worst he’s played in my eyes.

I hope he proves me wrong though and obviously Carrick et al know more than me 🤣
 
With respect, why would he want to be here? He has few ties to the area, if any?

He's a professional working for an employer, just like any other. If another offer comes his way he'll consider it, just like you or I would.

Why we hold footballers to any greater sense of loyalty to an employer than the rest of us has always baffled me.
 
Jedi boro said:
Madness

But if he doesn’t want to be here then his loss.

I hope he enjoys his loan spells at Bournemouth or Leeds next season.
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I think that price if correct is about right for the player. We haven't been screwed. Value of around £7mil. We are squeezing another couple of mil plus no doubt a sell on clause. Say there's a 20% sell on clause in there and later he does go for around £20mil, then we will get another £4mil so will bump that up to the £12-14mil sort of area. Not bad at all for a player we paid £1.5mil for 6 months ago.

We could gamble and keep him another 18 months and he could be worth 15-20mil or he could be worth 2 mil. It could go either way. Yes he's showing glimpses of really high quality but he's also shown a lot of inconsistency. To be worth that sort of money he would have to start doing it a lot more often than he is now. It's as if he's become this world beater overnight amongst boro fans just because another club has shown interest.

The model relies on selling players on for profit. We all know this. Somebody is offering above what a player is worth and its a good chunk of money. We are going to sell.
 
B_G said:
I think that price if correct is about right for the player. We haven't been screwed. Value of around £7mil. We are squeezing another couple of mil plus no doubt a sell on clause. Say there's a 20% sell on clause in there and later he does go for around £20mil, then we will get another £4mil so will bump that up to the £12-14mil sort of area. Not bad at all for a player we paid £1.5mil for 6 months ago.

We could gamble and keep him another 18 months and he could be worth 15-20mil or he could be worth 2 mil. It could go either way. Yes he's showing glimpses of really high quality but he's also shown a lot of inconsistency. To be worth that sort of money he would have to start doing it a lot more often than he is now. It's as if he's become this world beater overnight amongst boro fans just because another club has shown interest.

The model relies on selling players on for profit. We all know this. Somebody is offering above what a player is worth and its a good chunk of money. We are going to sell.
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I feel like you're continually overlooking that with young players generally you're not paying for what the player is worth based on current ability, you're factoring in that as well as his potential, you're also factoring his value to his current club, not the selling club, he's worth more to us than he is to Villa, then you're taking in to account that it's January, and considering it's directly impacting a season that would generally add more to consider too.

I really don't get this constant talk of "we could gamble". If you applied that train of thought to every player nobody would be at any club for more than year. It's not a gamble. No more than any other signing is. We paid very little for him, if it comes to the point where he ends up being "worth" 2m then that's not even really a loss for us is it.

If a team in the top four of the Premier League are this keen to sign him he is inherently worth more than £7m.

I am honestly getting fed up of hearing people on here going on about "tHe MoDeL" at this point as well.
 
I think they are only keen if they get him cheap. As it's probably to replace Jhon Durán as it looks like they are going to cut their losses on him and it will be a big hit on FFP. They are very limited on the FFP spending front going forward so will have to wheel and deal. They won't be prepared to go too high for him. If anything I see them thinking he's a temporary signing to fill a gap in the squad that they'd like to make a quick profit on themselves in a year or two. Not a long-term signing for where they are trying to go.
 
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