Morgan Rogers fee

What transfer fee will we get for Rogers?

  • <£5m

    Votes: 7 2.8%

  • £5-10m

    Votes: 95 38.2%

  • £10-15m

    Votes: 103 41.4%

  • >£15m

    Votes: 25 10.0%

  • £12.5m (Boro's standard negotiating fee)

    Votes: 19 7.6%
  • Total voters
    249
Redwurzel said:
If I was running the Boro I would also have to consider what I have to pay for a decent Championship forward.
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But I wonder if we’ve already brought in his replacement - Finn Azaz, from Villa, for what looks like a very good deal at £2.5m.

I wonder if we got a friendly deal on Azaz (and of course all the loans from Villa) in return for a reasonable deal on whoever they want, which looks like Rogers.

I also reckon we’ll deal around £9-£10m. £8m profit for 6 months seems pretty fair to me, that’s a significant amount of money for us. Maybe a player back on loan (who might be Morgan Rogers) to offset City’s clause, or they go an extra £1m to split the difference on what City’s owed… but we’re all just playing real life FM negotiations.

In any event I’d have Morgan as first name on the teamsheet tomorrow. You want a PL move? Show them what you can do then.
 
B_G said:
. No doubt we will put a similar clause in if Villa sign him. And if he goes onto become the £15-20m that everyone is so confident he will become then we will get another 3 or 4 mil down the line to make it up to £13-14 mil. A healthy £12mil profit on a player we held for 6 months.
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But what if villa don’t sell him and he becomes £15-20m player? Just a regular for them.
 
Colgates_shaving_foam said:
Who are you? Trading standards?

Who gives a toss about what is a fair deal for Villa?
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I'm not bothered in the slightest about a fair deal Villa. I do care about a fair deal for Boro though. I'm resigned to the fact the Rogers is likely to go. All the murmurs are that he is very interested in the move. Once that happens, more often than not a player will be transferred. There's no point in convincing myself that we should be accepting nothing short of £15m. It's not going to happen. It's unrealistic. And it's pointless standing in a player's way if PL interest comes and a good offer is tabled. That's when agents and players become an issue. And maybe the good faith shown from Villa when loans and transfers have came the other way will be gone.

You can't just start demanding One Bafillion Gazzilion Dollars every time a club comes sniffing.

Reading the Villa fans posts on social media. They think they are being absolutely robbed. In general, they've got an equally bias view is that £10mil is far too much for an unproven player with underwhelming goal/assists in the Championship. Figures more around the £5mil mark are being mentioned.

Taking money totally out of the equation for a minute. Will I be upset to see Rogers move on, Not particularly. Slightly disappointed but it's not like his current level is irreplaceable. He may develop into a good PL player, he may not. It's certainly no guarantee.

Like I said before, I'm hopeful that Azaz will perform at at least the same level this season. He might even add some more goals given his record. Rogers is not even a guaranteed starter when the squad is fully fit. There's other players within the squad I'd be much more upset to lose.

It's as if he's turned into Zidane over night when you read these threads.
 
B_G said:
I'm not bothered in the slightest about a fair deal Villa. I do care about a fair deal for Boro though. I'm resigned to the fact the Rogers is likely to go. All the murmurs are that he is very interested in the move. Once that happens, more often than not a player will be transferred. There's no point in convincing myself that we should be accepting nothing short of £15m. It's not going to happen. It's unrealistic. And it's pointless standing in a player's way if PL interest comes and a good offer is tabled. That's when agents and players become an issue. And maybe the good faith shown from Villa when loans and transfers have came the other way will be gone.

You can't just start demanding One Bafillion Gazzilion Dollars every time a club comes sniffing.

Reading the Villa fans posts on social media. They think they are being absolutely robbed. In general, they've got an equally bias view is that £10mil is far too much for an unproven player with underwhelming goal/assists in the Championship. Figures more around the £5mil mark are being mentioned.

Taking money totally out of the equation for a minute. Will I be upset to see Rogers move on, Not particularly. Slightly disappointed but it's not like his current level is irreplaceable. He may develop into a good PL player, he may not. It's certainly no guarantee.

Like I said before, I'm hopeful that Azaz will perform at at least the same level this season. He might even add some more goals given his record. Rogers is not even a guaranteed starter when the squad is fully fit. There's other players within the squad I'd be much more upset to lose.

It's as if he's turned into Zidane over night when you read these threads.
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It's not a good deal at all for Villa but that is the fundamentally the entire point.

We do not want to sell him, to induce us to sell Villa have to make us an offer we cannot refuse. They have not done that yet. I think that offer would be around the 15ish mill mark but only Steve Gibson knows what the magic number is.
 
Jedi boro said:
We honestly should be looking for no less than 30 mil as we DONT have to sell.
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Maybe not Rogers, but Boro do have to sell somebody every season to defray losses.

And as someone else said, if Boro sign players to develop into stars, then they have to be prepared to let them move to bigger clubs if offers come in.
 
Colgates_shaving_foam said:
It's not a good deal at all for Villa but that is the fundamentally the entire point.

We do not want to sell him, to induce us to sell Villa have to make us an offer we cannot refuse. They have not done that yet. I think that offer would be around the 15ish mill mark but only Steve Gibson knows what the magic number is.
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Thank you, yes exactly. What his actual value is right now is only one part of the equation.

Gibson/Bausor etc will also be guided by Carrick, Danks, Scott and co. who will know far more about his potential and likely future transfer value than anyone on here.
 
Defender 4x4 said:
"All the murmurs are that he is very interested in the move" That's the trouble with social media. All the murmurs and gossip becomes true and people just accept he wants to leave. Just chill out and stop worrying.
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He might be interested (and probably is) but that doesn't mean he's not happy here and will sulk if it doesn't happen.
 
Soutra said:
Maybe not Rogers, but Boro do have to sell somebody every season to defray losses.

And as someone else said, if Boro sign players to develop into stars, then they have to be prepared to let them move to bigger clubs if offers come in.
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The club have already sold Akpom for £10m, in case you'd missed it.
 
Soutra said:
Maybe not Rogers, but Boro do have to sell somebody every season to defray losses.
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Not quite true, we have to sell regularly, not specifically every season. We could sit on rogers for 18 months and then sell at a bigger profit and still be financially sound and within FFP
 
Soutra said:
Maybe not Rogers, but Boro do have to sell somebody every season to defray losses.

And as someone else said, if Boro sign players to develop into stars, then they have to be prepared to let them move to bigger clubs if offers come in.
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The other factor of course is that when trying to attract them we may be promising these players that if a significant club comes in with a reasonable offer then we won’t stand in their way if they want to go.
 
HolgateCorner said:
The other factor of course is that when trying to attract them we may be promising these players that if a significant club comes in with a reasonable offer then we won’t stand in their way if they want to go.
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reasonable offer???

I’ve seen a few posters mention this as though it’s some how a usp who the hell signs anyone just to let them go, what ambition is that.

I’m not sure why we are so keen to be fleeced all of a sudden. Selling for silly money is one thing as Brighton and Brentford both do but this isn’t that.
 
The idea that we approach players in negotiating going "Oh please sign for us, we promise to let you go the moment someone tries to sign you" is laughable to me. There might be the unspoken acknowledgement between both parties that we are likely a stepping stone for some of these players, but verbalising a "promise" to let them go is a pathetic approach to negotiation.
 
Jonathan said:
The idea that we approach players in negotiating going "Oh please sign for us, we promise to let you go the moment someone tries to sign you" is laughable to me. There might be the unspoken acknowledgement between both parties that we are likely a stepping stone for some of these players, but verbalising a "promise" to let them go is a pathetic approach to negotiation.
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Yes I don’t get this either sends out a very odd signal.
 
jonny_greenings_sock said:
But I wonder if we’ve already brought in his replacement - Finn Azaz, from Villa, for what looks like a very good deal at £2.5m.

I wonder if we got a friendly deal on Azaz (and of course all the loans from Villa) in return for a reasonable deal on whoever they want, which looks like Rogers.

I also reckon we’ll deal around £9-£10m. £8m profit for 6 months seems pretty fair to me, that’s a significant amount of money for us. Maybe a player back on loan (who might be Morgan Rogers) to offset City’s clause, or they go an extra £1m to split the difference on what City’s owed… but we’re all just playing real life FM negotiations.

In any event I’d have Morgan as first name on the teamsheet tomorrow. You want a PL move? Show them what you can do then.
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Azaz natural position is the same as rogers so my instinct is rogers is going
 
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