Minutes Silence and National Anthem - why?

[Inoffthebar]

The queen was patron of 600 charities. I don’t think she was patron of a blackpool burger van.
And yes, it is more important that £25 million gets raised for charity than a football match gets postponed.

Exactly - so why shouldn’t the burger van get their cash if the charity can earn their donations?

If we’re mourning then everyone should mourn. If events are going ahead then all events should go ahead, not just events that had some vague link to the Queen.

 

[SmallTown]

Exactly - so why shouldn’t the burger van get their cash if the charity can earn their donations?

If we’re mourning then everyone should mourn. If events are going ahead then all events should go ahead, not just events that had some vague link to the Queen.

Are you serious?

You don't know the difference between a burger van recording earnings for a single afternoon and £25million being raised for charity? I mean, honestly?

 

[Inoffthebar]

Are you serious?

You don't know the difference between a burger van recording earnings for a single afternoon and £25million being raised for charity? I mean, honestly?

Are you serious? Course I know the difference between a burger van and a charity.

You still haven’t provided an explanation as to WHY it was okay for the charities to make their money but for the burger vans (and pubs, hotels, transport) etc to lose out on theirs with cancelled events.

 

[Cardiffdaffs]

Good points - and no run out music in either half, no goal music, it all added to the already flat atmosphere. Talk about over the top over kill. The queen died, very sad an all that but life goes on. It’s all just virtue signalling really

Many people say the music ruins the atmosphere. Now you are saying it's absence made the atmosphere flat. Which is it?

 

[SmallTown]

Are you serious? Course I know the difference between a burger van and a charity.

You still haven’t provided an explanation as to WHY it was okay for the charities to make their money but for the burger vans (and pubs, hotels, transport) etc to lose out on theirs with cancelled events.

If you know the difference then you know the answer

 

[BoroMart]

Really? I seem to end up singing it loads, mainly at England rugby internationals I guess.

Have sang god save the king twice already: At Kingston park on Saturday and at the start of the Great North Run. It feels odds after 40 years of god save the queen. Especially the "send him victorious" bit for some reason.

Yes, really. It's dreary and sings about one thing that doesn't exist and one that I believe shouldn't. It leaves me cold to be honest

 

[SmallTown]

Yes, really. It's dreary and sings about one thing that doesn't exist and one that I believe shouldn't. It leaves me cold to be honest

Oh I get that it's dreary. I'd much rather have Jerusalem (and I'm not religious)

But it is my National anthem and I was proud to sing it twice at the weekend. Regardless of how bad the country is at the moment.

 

[BoroMart]

Are you serious?

You don't know the difference between a burger van recording earnings for a single afternoon and £25million being raised for charity? I mean, honestly?

that's a bit apples and oranges as you've summed up all charity made, but only one burger van. If you sum up the cost to every independent shop it will surely far outweigh the charities

 

[SmallTown]

that's a bit apples and oranges as you've summed up all charity made, but only one burger van. If you sum up the cost to every independent shop it will surely far outweigh the charities

I doubt that very much. A cancelled football match doesn't have much economic affect to local businesses. It could actually increase revenues in pubs, due to costumers who would normally be at a match being there.

Besides there is a difference between charity and business.

Further besides, 60000 of us have sacrificed evenings, weekends and holidays to prepare for a one off event in order to raise millions for charity. To compare it to a football match being called off is ridiculous. Football matches get called of if it rains too much, get called off if people can't get on a train, hell we even called one off because we had the sniffles.

It's just silly to compare the two.

 

[BoroMart]

Oh I get that it's dreary. I'd much rather have Jerusalem (and I'm not religious)

But it is my National anthem and I was proud to sing it twice at the weekend. Regardless of how bad the country is at the moment.

good for you, each to their own,. I'd prefer something a bit more modern and banging, shake it up a bit, sometimes traditions outstay their welcome

 

[BoroMart]

I doubt that very much. A cancelled football match doesn't have much economic affect to local businesses. It could actually increase revenues in pubs, due to costumers who would normally be at a match being there.

Of course it does, events of all kinds lead to local revenue in pubs and fooderies of all kinds. If the event doesn't happen, a lot of people stay at home and the food and drink sector loses revenue.

 

[MolteniArcore]

Of course it does, events of all kinds lead to local revenue in pubs and fooderies of all kinds. If the event doesn't happen, a lot of people stay at home and the food and drink sector loses revenue.

This businesses will get an opportunity to recoup some, if not all, of the lost revenue when he match is replayed. I don't get why we are worried about businesses in Blackpool all of a sudden either. It's like people are just looking for things to moan about because the Queen's death has ruined one away game.

The result might have ruined it anyway!!

 

[SmallTown]

good for you, each to their own,. I'd prefer something a bit more modern and banging, shake it up a bit, sometimes traditions outstay their welcome

Such as?

 

[SmallTown]

This businesses will get an opportunity to recoup some, if not all, of the lost revenue when he match is replayed. I don't get why we are worried about businesses in Blackpool all of a sudden either. It's like people are just looking for things to moan about because the Queen's death has ruined one away game.

The result might have ruined it anyway!!

Absolutely this. That's a good point actually. To complain about a deferred revenue, and compare it to £25million being raised for charity is just ridiculous. Look, people are upset the football didn't happen, i get that. It's just using the GNR as a coutner argument is misguided at best, at worst it means you care more about football than charities receiving money.

 

[SmallTown]

Of course it does, events of all kinds lead to local revenue in pubs and fooderies of all kinds. If the event doesn't happen, a lot of people stay at home and the food and drink sector loses revenue.

Therefore increasing revenues for Uber Eats, off licences and supermarkets...

 

[JM14]

The queen was patron of 600 charities. I don’t think she was patron of a blackpool burger van.
And yes, it is more important that £25 million gets raised for charity than a football match gets postponed.

40 football games going ahead around the country would have brought in far more than 25 million for the local economies. But regardless we don’t need to compare, no reason why anything needed to be cancelled

 

[MolteniArcore]

40 football games going ahead around the country would have brought in far more than 25 million for the local economies. But regardless we don’t need to compare, no reason why anything needed to be cancelled

They will all be replayed and the businesses will get most, if not all of that revenue back.

 

[BoroMart]

They will all be replayed and the businesses will get most, if not all of that revenue back.

midweek fixtures will be the only choice, which always have lower crowds and lower spend due to limited time/school night etc. It's gone, they won't get it back

 

[MolteniArcore]

midweek fixtures will be the only choice, which always have lower crowds and lower spend due to limited time/school night etc. It's gone, they won't get it back

Blackpool's highest attendance was on a Wednesday night this season - hopefully they can buck the trend.

 

[SmallTown]

40 football games going ahead around the country would have brought in far more than 25 million for the local economies. But regardless we don’t need to compare, no reason why anything needed to be cancelled

I doubt that. I think I’ve given about £5 to charity in my years of going to football? Unless you think the matches won’t go ahead later in the season? Or unless you think donating to charity is the same as buying a burger?