Middlesbrough Council Bankrupt...

[Right footed Left winger]

Didn't they pay out over a £billion on equal pay hence the problems?

Yes, Middlesbrough's was about 11 Million.

 

[Otto42]

Local Government has been cut back for years and is the scapegoat for central government's shortcomings, not surprised to see us reach this sorry state. No way would this have been allowed to happen in London, indeed to an extent that's Birmingham's problem - the largest local authority in Europe, hence the largest liability for equal pay - perhaps a local tier with Birmingham split into boroughs like London and West Midlands tier above would lead to better more focused management?

 

[Nero]

if you've ever tendered for Government/Local authority contracts you'll see how out of touch they are with public sector, I've put in prices 4 times more than I would charge the public sector, really I don't want the job price, and have won the contract, only because I'm on the trusted list, then just sub contracted it, who many cases will sub contract it again, 3 firms making a profit

It’s not just public sector. Many large projects suffer from the planning fallacy, which is a human bias. People involved often underestimate the time and cost of projects, so it’s not surprising some go beyond both on occasions.

 

[Quicksilvera]

You're the embarrassment if you can't see what's been happening for the past 13 years.

I think the tories are now playing the ‘they’re all the same’ argument because they know what’s coming at the general election.

 

[festa5]

Just a reminder for the hard of thinking.

Nothing to see hear though, not like this bloke is of any consequence. All the same though

 

[Jedi boro]

the colour of the rosette means nothing.

That is the Tory game plan to this next election.

Because if they are all the same why change the current lot.

It won’t work btw

 

[Emmersons_BrazillianDong]

They then tell local authorities to Hike their Council tax, knowing that numpty residents will blame them rather that the government.

Ye labour council but it's about those tory cu*ts.

When will you understand that they're all an embarrassment, they're all on the take, they all mismanage whatever is allocated to them, the colour of the rosette means nothing.

Exibit A, M'Lord

 

[BoroMart]

Didn't they pay out over a £billion on equal pay hence the problems?

exactly this, it wasn't budget, couldn't be budgeted, the cycle lane and even commonwealth games are irrelevant. The equal pay issue hit them, as has the repeated slashing of council budgets from central government, plus inflation hitting them over the last couple of years.

 

[alvez_49]

You're the embarrassment if you can't see what's been happening for the past 13 years.

Never voted tory voted JC unlike half of this board.

And just to correct you we've had "tory" government since before I was born in the 80s.

Hint they aren't Tories and labour aren't labour.

 

[Corcaigh_the_Cat]

Never voted tory voted JC unlike half of this board.

And just to correct you we've had "tory" government since before I was born in the 80s.

Hint they aren't Tories and labour aren't labour.

You've only known neo liberalism in your lifetime, it doesn't mean that you shouldn't recognise the shift in the Tory party before your birth or the shift in the Labour Party during your childhood that hasn't been rectified.

I too voted for Corbyn and he'd get my vote today, I also recognise the pressures that local governments have been put under, and so should you. The policies of the last 13 years has seen a vicious attack by central government on poorer communities, more often than not Labour run.

 

[alvez_49]

You've only known neo liberalism in your lifetime, it doesn't mean that you shouldn't recognise the shift in the Tory party before your birth or the shift in the Labour Party during your childhood that hasn't been rectified.

I too voted for Corbyn and he'd get my vote today, I also recognise the pressures that local governments have been put under, and so should you. The policies of the last 13 years has seen a vicious attack by central government on poorer communities, more often than not Labour run.

Completely agree, I just also understand that this would be no different under Labour.

 

[junos_boots]

Talk of the cycle lane in Middlesbrough bankrupting them is a slight diversion. The money that paid for a lot of it had to be spent on cycle lanes as Houchen has told them if they rip it up they have to repay the money.

 

[TheLodger]

I'm sure paying a local taxi company £46,000 per day to take kids to and from school didn't help Birmingham Council.

Home to school transport is a statutory duty- The government rules force councils to provide this service.

 

[TheLodger]

It's very possible that Middlesbrough council will issue a 114 notice, we're working round the clock to stop it happening, but it might not be possible.

 

[Corcaigh_the_Cat]

Completely agree, I just also understand that this would be no different under Labour.

You could be right but I'd take the chance that it will be. Things improved under Blair after the drought years of Thatcher and Major.

Blair failed by not taking it further, by getting into bed with business (only one winner there) and not correctly restructuring taxation (along with lots of other fallings) which could have produced a more egalitarian society and saved us from this chaos of the last 13 years.

I was involved as a school governor at the time and the change was refreshing. We had money to spend, not only on fixing the leaks in the roof and the years of damage done by it but also develop an IT unit kitted out with PCs. Don't underestimate the differences between Conservative and Labour regimes

 

[Wez68]

Completely agree, I just also understand that this would be no different under Labour.

I totally agree with you on this and your other posts on this thread

 

[SilentProf]

It's very possible that Middlesbrough council will issue a 114 notice, we're working round the clock to stop it happening, but it might not be possible.

I can’t see how it will be possible to avoid it. There’s only so much the council can sell off and so many services they can cut. Obviously Labour will get the blame as usual with anything local but austerity has damaged this town and many others beyond belief.

 

[TheLodger]

I can’t see how it will be possible to avoid it. There’s only so much the council can sell off and so many services they can cut. Obviously Labour will get the blame as usual with anything local but austerity has damaged this town and many others beyond belief.

The mismanagement from the previous administration is the biggest problem we have to overcome.

 

[h_m_boro]

I'm a very disillusioned Labour supporter, not a fan of Starmer and his band of right leaning shysters advising him.......but even me being a massive cynic thinks the country will improve under a Labour government. Not to the level of what Blair did but at least some form of honesty will be restored.

Not expecting unicorns and 14 years of neglect/theft/incompetence reversed overnight but at least the brakes will be applied to this country slipping down the sh*tter, becoming more synonymous with a corrupt banana republic than a leading world country like it used to be.

I hope.

 

[Acklam_Lad]

The mismanagement from the previous administration is the biggest problem we have to overcome.

The new administration give over a million to JOMAST to start developing a building bought by JOMAST is not helping.

Why are we giving private landlords money to develop their own buildings that they bought at reduced cost?