Matt Clarke
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CarrickBall
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It's been mentioned numerous times over recent weeks by Wilder in press conferences that Boro will not be paying over the odds or more for players in fees and wages than what we believe they are worth.
All of these approaches for players we've heard about this summer.. reading between the lines, it seems Boro have walked away from because the selling club, player and/or agent are taking the ****.
Over recent years Boro have always had to 'go a bit more' to get players up here, to swing the balance of negotiations in our favour, and we've had our fingers burned. Seems we aren't going to be doing it anymore and are going down a more sustainable/grow your own/invest in prospects/find a hidden gem route.
I would imagine we'll make a few last minute signings. Some of these clubs who are holding out for big fee's will find themselves in a now or never position in the hours leading up to the window closing. Its all good and well holding firm for a higher fee when there is still a week left of the the transfer window but when it becomes clear that they will be stuck with an unhappy player unless they accept a lower offer thats a different situation all together.
CarrickBall
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I bet Gibson is an absolute **** to deal with you know.
Try and 'have the wool over his eyes' or move the goalposts late on to strangle more money out of the deal and you'll be done with him. Levels of morals and standard of business behaviour, I suppose, but he won't be messed about.
He's a stroppy and petulant ruthless business man.
uncle_rico
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I'm not overly fussed with this TBH, the same as I wasn't with Greaves. I would be happy if we did sign them, but alos not going to lose sleep over it. Part of me thinks that if these players were that good, then others would be in for them, (and not just Stoke in Clarke's case). Guess we don't know if there are, and suppose you could also say the same for Muniz, Hoppe, Mowatt etc.
The answer to the LCB, at present is McNair, in my opinion. He was more than fine there last season and because Wilder now has this reluctance to play him there we are having to shoe horn him into midfield, where he is a lot less effective.
The answer to the LCB, at present is McNair, in my opinion. He was more than fine there last season and because Wilder now has this reluctance to play him there we are having to shoe horn him into midfield, where he is a lot less effective.
Lemmy_kilmister
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I hope so.
Recent clandestine shenanigans has shown us how unscrupulous the modern game is regarding the blatant profiteering by agents and their connections in the game
Crawl back under your rock
Pear-Drops
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Why would he want to go to Stoke, other than location purposes, having been at west brom and derby.
FFS even Aden Flint, another new signing, can't get in team ahead of Jageilka
FFS even Aden Flint, another new signing, can't get in team ahead of Jageilka
Jonny Ingbar
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I think Stoke have been chasing his transfer most of the summer, worth it interest coming at the eleventh hour.Why would he want to go to Stoke, other than location purposes, having been at west brom and derby.
FFS even Aden Flint, another new signing, can't get in team ahead of Jageilka
I guess it will boil down to which is the best offer to Brighton - given he's in the last year of his contract in due they'll want a sale, rather than a loan.
No idea which club the player would prefer, but that may influence things too.
Ironops
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I get it, and I dont necessarily disagree - but you pay a price. You have to buy less experienced players and develop them, that takes time, so it could be we are still a few years away from a squad that can really challenge
ThatFragranceGuy
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True, I'm ok with winning games in the championship and going up when ready vs going up right away and coming straight back down like many do. Promotion is great but if be happier building a cohesive side
CarrickBall
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Yes, agreed. Unless one or two gems turn out to be world beaters instantly, it's a long process.
Boro have the makings of a good team, we've got some really decent players for this level, we've got some young players and new players that are learning and growing and gelling..
I would LOVE to see that little bit of stardust, that marquee signing or two to come and add real quality to what we've already got to give us a really good chance of getting somewhere this season, but finances are what they are and I DEFINITELY don't want us ending up with a bulging squad of expensive mercenaries weighing us down for another 5 years.
BoroMart
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It's irrelevant if FFP stop them pumping more money in
Zoophonic
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Agree. They seem to be able to find a way. I’m amazed at how much Forest
have been able to spend this season
BoroMart
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no there is mroe than just the immediate wage, there is chance of promotion, relationship with manager, club philosophy etc.
If I was a CB and a half decent footballer I would love to play in a wilder team, not so sure about a MON team
Rofesleg
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McNair was indeed OK at LCB.
But Wilder and Knill obviously see a left footed player in that position as a key part of their tactics.
Obviously they don't just want a left footed player, they want a left footed player who will be an improvement on McNair (or Bola) in that position. Which has limited the options.
If we're not going to back that basic part of their vision why appoint them in the first place?
BoroMart
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Different rules in the prem, plus if they've spent 130m on players on 4 year contracts, then that's 'only' 32m a season amortised. If they get relegated they could handle that for 2 years, but would need to sell to buy. If they go down and fail to go back up in 2 seasons, the parachute money will be drying up and they will need a firesale.