M + S in the Boro shutting

MolteniArcore

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That depends on your age and how much you want to spend, you don't know the shop selling more upmarket clothes than Barkers and you're there twice a week?

I've never bothered much with labels so I'm not sure about 'designer' clothing other than what I wore as a designer 😁

Just googled it. It's a suit shop. I'm not going to know where it is as I have no need for a suit. But it's not really competing with Barker's smart / casual menswear business is it?
 

Greaseman

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The divide and conquer strategy never fails in this country. The development of 'the other' is what keeps our weapons of mass deception busy, and the populace soaks it up.
Blimey, thats fanciful thinking.
Ive lived and worked in many different countries and the populace is not much different to the UK.
Can you give any examples that I may be missing?
 

Glover_elbow

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Is it an affluent town? There are wealthy people here but there are a lot of poorer families too. Maybe not in line with other poorer areas but I'd guess half the town doesn't have the cash to be out on weekends / shopping at M&S etc.

I dunno. It's a tough one.
We go to Northallerton and stokesley regularly I would rather spend money at small independent retailers and local butchers bakers local markets etc than national stores. The kids won't set foot in stockton and the only time they go into Boro is to Primark. It's a real issue knowing what to do with Boro town centre as it's spread out more than Stockton. . MBoro seems to be clinging on to the notion it can still be a retail town when the reality is they might as well concede now and bulldoze the hill Street centre. I am quite enthusiastic about Stockton's plans for the Riverside at least it's got a post retail strategy. Lots of snobbery around teesside park as well on this thread it's functional and does what it says on the tin with free easy access for cars
 

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We go to Northallerton and stokesley regularly I would rather spend money at small independent retailers and local butchers bakers local markets etc than national stores. The kids won't set foot in stockton and the only time they go into Boro is to Primark. It's a real issue knowing what to do with Boro town centre as it's spread out more than Stockton. . MBoro seems to be clinging on to the notion it can still be a retail town when the reality is they might as well concede now and bulldoze the hill Street centre. I am quite enthusiastic about Stockton's plans for the Riverside at least it's got a post retail strategy. Lots of snobbery around teesside park as well on this thread it's functional and does what it says on the tin with free easy access for cars
Hill Street Centre is privately owned. It is the one centre from the big three not owned by the council.
It is largely occupied but obviously the closure of Debenhams and now M and S will hit it hard.
The management of the Hill Street are really innovative in working with community groups, arts groups etc to utilise empty shop units for community use. Ironically far more so than the council owned Cleveland Centre.
There are two art galleries in the Hill Street Centre - Pineapple Black, Masham/Navigator North - admittedly the groups that run them can only afford time/money/manpower to open them part time but they are both open 3 days a week, including Saturdays. There is also a community drop in shop running different courses etc. There have previously been council and community information centres and they are so encouraging towards people doing book signings etc.
 

Jan_Aage_Fjortoft

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We go to Northallerton and stokesley regularly I would rather spend money at small independent retailers and local butchers bakers local markets etc than national stores. The kids won't set foot in stockton and the only time they go into Boro is to Primark. It's a real issue knowing what to do with Boro town centre as it's spread out more than Stockton. . MBoro seems to be clinging on to the notion it can still be a retail town when the reality is they might as well concede now and bulldoze the hill Street centre. I am quite enthusiastic about Stockton's plans for the Riverside at least it's got a post retail strategy. Lots of snobbery around teesside park as well on this thread it's functional and does what it says on the tin with free easy access for cars
Not sure why you think there is a snobbery about Teesside Park. It has clear design faults which make it a massive pain to visit at busy times. Whether it's poor public transport links or tailbacks caused by a badly designed system of roads getting into it.

And most people would love to spend at small independent retailers but they are often more expensive. Sadly for a lot of people in this area they can't be as choosey as you.
 
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Corcaigh_the_Cat

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Just googled it. It's a suit shop. I'm not going to know where it is as I have no need for a suit. But it's not really competing with Barker's smart / casual menswear business is it?
It isn't 'a suit shop'. It sells suits but lots of casual clothing too, so yes it's competing with Barkers, as us Montana just along from Lewis and Cooper, albeit rather pricey
 

Corcaigh_the_Cat

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Blimey, thats fanciful thinking.
Ive lived and worked in many different countries and the populace is not much different to the UK.
Can you give any examples that I may be missing?
I've lived and worked in many countries too but unlike you I haven't been able to understand the language to compare media. Only in the USA could I do that. They too have weapons of mass deception which the populace fall for, hence the ridiculous Trump election success.
 

ThatFragranceGuy

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Is it size that matters? They're both alternatives to Barkers' men's department, as are Lakeland and Fat Face. I've bought from all with the exception of Montana, I can't afford to shop there.
Size does matter when going clothes shopping, absolutely, the odds of me finding something in a tiny shop vs a larger shop are far smaller and looking at Montana the idea of me wanting anything from there is slim to nil as not in the market for a bonnet or a tweed cap
 

Corcaigh_the_Cat

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Size does matter when going clothes shopping, absolutely, the odds of me finding something in a tiny shop vs a larger shop are far smaller and looking at Montana the idea of me wanting anything from there is slim to nil as not in the market for a bonnet or a tweed cap
You've been misled by the window dressing.
 

Gunslinger

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The country needs high street shopping - it really does, it adds a variety to life and it is culturally important - especially so at Christmas time with all the shops
showing christmas decorations, it is quintissential english life and needs to be protected

Theres a theory Amazon and online shopping has caused most high street shops to dissapear into the ether, a lot of people visit these shops, see something then google
it to see if they can get it off amazon cheaper - which is usually the case, and get it a day later
 

thewanderer

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The country needs high street shopping - it really does, it adds a variety to life and it is culturally important - especially so at Christmas time with all the shops
showing christmas decorations, it is quintissential english life and needs to be protected

Theres a theory Amazon and online shopping has caused most high street shops to dissapear into the ether, a lot of people visit these shops, see something then google
it to see if they can get it off amazon cheaper - which is usually the case, and get it a day later
Why does it need to be protected? And how? I suspect I speak for a lot of people when I say that shopping is a chore and if there is a way of avoiding/minimising it then I'll do it.
 
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