Lucy letby

Legz

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Guilty!! It's actually made me feel sick to the stomach that someone can do that to the smallest, illest, and most vulnerable little children when she was trusted to do her very best to help them. As a mam I can't begin to imagine the devastation felt by the victims families. Why would she do something like that?? 😢😢😢
 
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Pure evil. Horrendous crimes.

Some serious questions to be asked if the hospital management. 7 murders in one unit in one year plus a lot of others getting seriously ill.

I can’t help but read these stories even though it depresses and saddens me. Just plays on my mind.
 
There can't be any doubt - her shift patterns show hers as the only presence in the wards when the babies were ill or dying.
Pure evil.
 
What does partial verdict mean? I suspect there will be an appeal or retrial.
I'm not 100% certain, so someone might correct me, but I think it is because there were 9 counts of murder and she was found guilty of 7 of them. Plus guilty of 6 of the 10 counts of attempted murders.
 
What does partial verdict mean? I suspect there will be an appeal or retrial.
She's been found guilty of 7 murders and 6 attempted murders but couldn't reach verdicts in 4 other cases. I think the CPS are going to decide if they re-trial her for them 4
 
Interesting viv
Also before anyone jumps on, I just referenced that case because I remember reading an article a few months back where it was said that Letby’s shift patterns were a ‘key part’ of the prosecution’s case and why that was a potential problem. It referenced the Lucia de Berk case and one in America as well.
 
I still cannot believe this. Isn't there always the minute chance that this is just some horrible coincidence.
I just can't allow myself to believe that this could happen and not be noticed and actioned on sooner.
Were they unanimous verdicts or majority?
 
I still cannot believe this. Isn't there always the minute chance that this is just some horrible coincidence.
I just can't allow myself to believe that this could happen and not be noticed and actioned on sooner.
Were they unanimous verdicts or majority?
Unanimous on 2 and majority for all the others she's been found guilty for. 4 cases they couldn't reach verdicts on
 
I still cannot believe this. Isn't there always the minute chance that this is just some horrible coincidence.
I just can't allow myself to believe that this could happen and not be noticed and actioned on sooner.
Were they unanimous verdicts or majority?
It was noticed earlier and consultants wanted her moved and a police investigation.

Management later made the consultants sign a letter of apology to her and the outgoing senior person told his/her successor that the consultants should be reported to the GMC.
 
Really surprised by this verdict. From day one it looked like another Lucia de Berk, and the evidence as reported in the press has been far from convincing. Just have to trust that the jury saw something we didn't.
 
This case is staggering and could end up being as awful and shocking as Howard Shipman. I'd like to be able to read the Judges summing up. Imagine being a Juror on this trial too - 10 months of trying to make sense out of defensive and prosecution arguments.

Those poor babies didn't stand a chance. I hope all the families involved can find peace at some point.
 
There's a nurse on sky news has just said this
"When the alarms started ringing out on the neo natal ward on a night (as Lucy worked nights) people would say "is Lucy working tonight""
Unbelievable!!!
 
This whole affair is beyond a national disgrace. Negligence, dereliction of duty and cover ups beyond comprehension. As much as we all love the NHS, it isn’t fit for purpose any longer, it needs route and branch restructure, serious funding for recruitment, retention and urgent training. Failures, cover ups, mismanagement from the politicians down through years have all contributed, but non more so than the tories.

It doesn’t stop there sadly, C.E.O’s, Directors and Managers with no NHS experience, on huge salaries trying to run it as a private business and you can’t. They lose sight of what they are there to provide, patting themselves on the back for finding short cuts, savings, employing clerical staff to justify their own positions, when the need for investment in appropriately paid staff (dr’s nurses etc) across the service. We all need to pay more in taxes as it wont be fundable within current taxation. There are far too many people chasing their own tails currently that the Lucy Letby’s and Shipmans et al don’t get noticed quickly enough. There is also an element of fear in reporting within current structures from above that needs urgently addressing. Whistleblowers should be rewarded, not bullied or removed.

Whatever term she gets, I doubt she will survive prison. This is a case where those in favour of the death penalty will win support.
 
Doubt she will last long in there either. Women are worse than men for retribution in prisons when it comes to these kind of offences.
 
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