Lots of anti-Marxists in Hungary

Same_as_before said:
But Brexiteers are accused of being a cult. I don't know what circles you mix in but I never hear it mentioned. Surely the definition of a cult is to continuing publicity to your cause.

I think it's quite benificial, more jobs, wages increasing, Brocalli available, 6 million given permanent status, loads if signings for the Boro, life's good.
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The definition of a cult is publicity? I think your dictionary is broken.
And of course you know that none of those benefits are actual benefits caused by Brexit.
 
Way_Out_West said:
The definition of a cult is publicity? I think your dictionary is broken.
And of course you know that none of those benefits are actual benefits caused by Brexit.
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I don’t need to read the posts you’re responding to (ignore button working well) to be able to guess what is being said. The cult of Brexit alive and well, the denial continues and ‘benefits’ are ascribed to Brexit that are either (i) not benefits, (ii) not true or (iii) not in any way related to Brexit.
 
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Adi_Dem said:
I don’t need to read the posts you’re responding too (ignore button working well) to be able to guess what is being said. The cult of Brexit alive and well, the denial continues and ‘benefits’ are ascribed to Brexit that are either (i) not benefits, (ii) not true or (iii) not in any way related to Brexit.
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Ah, the bloke who despises democracy, the chief priest of Remainology. Brexit seems to effect only those of the Remain cult.

I wasn't really pro Brexit until this lad turned up saying the vote should be overturned because the pro Brexit voters were; poor, thick, racist, uneducated.
 
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Same_as_before said:
But Brexiteers are accused of being a cult. I don't know what circles you mix in but I never hear it mentioned. Surely the definition of a cult is to continuing publicity to your cause.

I think it's quite benificial, more jobs, wages increasing, Brocalli available, 6 million given permanent status, loads if signings for the Boro, life's good.
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That's not the definition of a cult though is it? Not seen anyone say all brexiter belong to cult either, again it's all in your head.
 
SmallTown said:
You missed the bit where it was advisory. And the bit where it was based on lies. Oh and the damage it is doing.
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And the illegality and data protection breaches which led a court to hold that had it been binding it would have been legally invalid and set aside. And of course the fact that nobody voting leave had a clue what version of Brexit they were voting for.
 
I get the feeling if the vote had went the other way under the same circumstances it would have been ignored. I have never voted Tory but have lived under five Tory govts, Ce'st la vie..That's the trouble with democracies,you don't always get the decision you want.
 
Ex pfc wintergreen said:
I get the feeling if the vote had went the other way under the same circumstances it would have been ignored. I have never voted Tory but have lived under five Tory govts, Ce'st la vie..That's the trouble with democracies,you don't always get the decision you want.
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When you say "under the same circumstances" do you mean the same circumstances exactly as happened or a hypothetical reverse of who did what?

In the latter case - if remain had lied, cheated, undermined democracy and been found to have illegally won on a non-binding referendum then YES. I would have wanted it re-running despite voting remain. However, if vote leave hadn't lied, cheated etc. then they wouldn't have gotten many votes anyway so it's largely academic.

If you mean the former then NO. The remain vote overspent in some areas and were publically sanctioned for it, but nothing particularly out of the ordinary and certainly nothing that the UK Judiciary thought worthy of ruling against.

Under the exact same circumstances a remain victory would have been perfectly acceptable.
 
Scrote said:
When you say "under the same circumstances" do you mean the same circumstances exactly as happened or a hypothetical reverse of who did what?

In the latter case - if remain had lied, cheated, undermined democracy and been found to have illegally won on a non-binding referendum then YES. I would have wanted it re-running despite voting remain. However, if vote leave hadn't lied, cheated etc. then they wouldn't have gotten many votes anyway so it's largely academic.

If you mean the former then NO. The remain vote overspent in some areas and were publically sanctioned for it, but nothing particularly out of the ordinary and certainly nothing that the UK Judiciary thought worthy of ruling against.

Under the exact same circumstances a remain victory would have been perfectly acceptable.,
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Scrote said:
didn't Gina miller try and get it overturned and fail?. The internet arguments are irrelevant.
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Ex pfc wintergreen said:
I get the feeling if the vote had went the other way under the same circumstances it would have been ignored. I have never voted Tory but have lived under five Tory govts, Ce'st la vie..That's the trouble with democracies,you don't always get the decision you want.
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No, that's the trouble with lying and cheating. Yiu end up with what someone else wants.

So, if I read this right, you're happy you were lied to? Happy that you voted the way of a campaign that was found to be illegal?

Do you not have any self respect?
 
Erm, no. She twice pursued legal action against the government and won. Her legal actions were not designed to overturn the outcome but rather to protect Parliamentary democracy, which she did.

And the illegality, data protection breaches, lies and conclusions of the court as to the legitimacy of the referendum are not ‘internet arguments’ but rather simply the facts.
 
Adi_Dem said:
Erm, no. She twice pursued legal action against the government and won. Her legal actions were not designed to overturn the outcome but rather to protect Parliamentary democracy, which she did.

And the illegality, data protection breaches, lies and conclusions of the court as to the legitimacy of the referendum are not ‘internet arguments’ but rather simply the facts.
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Well why was the non binding decision allowed to stand,plenty on all sides had the will, I have read Thatcher never gained more than 49% of the vote but she served three terms despite my handringing and annoyance. I couldn't quote you any data but I wouldn't be surprised if people voted leave if there was another referendum, demographics support the older voter who voted leave last time. Most people seemed to have accepted it and moved on.
 
Ex pfc wintergreen said:
Well why was the non binding decision allowed to stand,plenty on all sides had the will, I have read Thatcher never gained more than 49% of the vote but she served three terms despite my handringing and annoyance. I couldn't quote you any data but I wouldn't be surprised if people voted leave if there was another referendum, demographics support the older voter who voted leave last time. Most people seemed to have accepted it and moved on.
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Because of a legal technicality. I’m seriously paraphrasing here but because it was non-binding it could not have been set aside which it otherwise could have been had it been binding. Simple as that.

And I have no idea as to the relevance of the rest of your post.
 
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