Life after Steve Gibson

FabioPorkpie said:
Will his daughter maybe just pick up the reins when he takes a back seat? I’d prefer that over a big foreign investor to be honest.
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it depends how it would be funded. at the moment the profit from the other group companies offset the loss of the club. so for it to function even with victoria in charge then you would think she would have to succeed steve in his group of companies role to be able to fund the club.

he is still only 63 so you would figure avoiding all major health issues we would have at least 20 years of him as owner.
 
indeedido said:
For absolute ****'s sake.
Gibson hasn't got a clue what he is doing ,but we will be happy to see his amateur actress pick up the reigns?

Middlesbrough is a very good club, with a good fan base.
The problem is the debt that Gibson has built up will prevent anybody investing in it.
He won't walk away for many reasons.
It totally ***** me off that his absolute inability to run the club is written off, while the debt he builds up will never be.
Stuck with each other.

There are lots of examples of better run and better financed clubs than Boro, but few of similar size that are worse, who owe so much money, have so negative shareholder value and are backed by someone with zero intention of ever investing in the club again.
The club is a financial basket case, but apparently Stevie Gibson is king for some fuckwits.
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Dear me…..You on your beeriod hun?
It’s the weekend. Maybe get yourself a beer and calm down.

People aren’t fuckwits for thinking the chairman who presided over our most successful period ever is good. Think maybe you need to get a little perspective.
 
JM14 said:
Dont think we are exactly in the position to attract many people to the club, poor area, far from London, historically small support and debt owed to the current owner. Expect there are plenty of other championship clubs that would be looked at long before we are
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I think Newcastle success will attract buyer's for us as one of Saudi Arabia enemies may buy us to challenge Newcastle
 
indeedido said:
For absolute ****'s sake.
Gibson hasn't got a clue what he is doing ,but we will be happy to see his amateur actress pick up the reigns?

Middlesbrough is a very good club, with a good fan base.
The problem is the debt that Gibson has built up will prevent anybody investing in it.
He won't walk away for many reasons.
It totally ***** me off that his absolute inability to run the club is written off, while the debt he builds up will never be.
Stuck with each other.

There are lots of examples of better run and better financed clubs than Boro, but few of similar size that are worse, who owe so much money, have so negative shareholder value and are backed by someone with zero intention of ever investing in the club again.
The club is a financial basket case, but apparently Stevie Gibson is king for some fuckwits.
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The only praiseworthy thing of note in that rubbish is getting the f word past the spell checker, I'll try it,what a ****wit you are.😎
Damn ,wouldn't work.
 
FabioPorkpie said:
Dear me…..You on your beeriod hun?
It’s the weekend. Maybe get yourself a beer and calm down.

People aren’t fuckwits for thinking the chairman who presided over our most successful period ever is good. Think maybe you need to get a little perspective.
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He’s right - so many don’t wish to see it
 
festa5 said:
Historically small support? Aren't we something like top 20 in the country for all time average attendances?

We don't compete with big clubs based in cities obviously but we have far better support than many other clubs who've attracted buyers in recent years. Barnsley immediately spring to mind for one.
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I know utter bull****

the negativity and self loathing on here is getting ridiculous

20-30 isn’t small attendance.
 
zorro_mfc said:
I know utter bull****

the negativity and self loathing on here is getting ridiculous

20-30 isn’t small attendance.
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I would think our average attendance the last ten years is no more than 21000, Historical attendances mean nothing, people have more to do with their leisure time these days. Years ago it was TV/radio , pictures,pub or match.
 
Rauko said:
With the Geordies being bought out .. another English team gone to foriegn owners .. it got me thinking about Boro.

Steve Gibson can't go on forever .. at some point retirement or worse will come to pass .. and the club will need a new guiding hand ..

Do we know if there are any provisions in place for when that time comes? A naturally groomed successor? Or do we think SG will look to get the best deal possible for the club from outside at some point?

It's becoming obvious that sooner or later your place within the Premier League will be decided by which Billionaire owns your club .. that will have a knock on to the Championship due to relegation and to outside investors who, dazzled by the bright lights of the Premier League, will look to pick up a bargain in the Championship and chase the riches (as is slowly happening already) on offer.

What is the future for Boro .. either with SG still at the helm or beyond that? Like it it not - if we want success do we NEED a bigger Sugar Daddy / Investment fund to give us that? Or .. will we (and will we be happy) to drift out of the limelight due to not being unable to compete?
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Sugar Daddys are in short supply in the Championship.
 
Gibson has made decisions he THINKS are in the best interests of the club this past 15 years, but they haven’t been, it is as simple as that.
Look where we are, what we owe.
It is others who need perspective.
He gets ALL THE PRAISE for what he enabled to 2006, but nobody can criticise just how badly things have gone since??
 
It's interesting reading this thread, because it seems the majority of people just want an owner who will pump millions of pounds into the club.

My overriding priority would be an owner that ensures the long term stability of the club.

The events at Newcastle will be interesting and amongst the hysteria of knowing that lots of money will be thrown at it, no one seems bothered that the Saudis have zero connection to the club and city, or what happens when they eventually pull out, with huge overheads and probably huge debts too.

It's typical of football, we complain about it being ruined by money, but then want a rich owner to 'ruin' our club too.

The competition in football is more about finances now than ever and it makes for an ugly, tainted product.
 
Jonny Ingbar said:
It's interesting reading this thread, because it seems the majority of people just want an owner who will pump millions of pounds into the club.

My overriding priority would be an owner that ensures the long term stability of the club.

The events at Newcastle will be interesting and amongst the hysteria of knowing that lots of money will be thrown at it, no one seems bothered that the Saudis have zero connection to the club and city, or what happens when they eventually pull out, with huge overheads and probably huge debts too.

It's typical of football, we complain about it being ruined by money, but then want a rich owner to 'ruin' our club too.

The competition in football is more about finances now than ever and it makes for an ugly, tainted product.
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The majority of people on this thread aren't saying they want that I don't think? I think many posters on here would agree with what you've said.

Unfortunately, as we know, this board isn't necessarily reflective of the views of the wider fanbase.
 
Jonny Ingbar said:
It's interesting reading this thread, because it seems the majority of people just want an owner who will pump millions of pounds into the club.

My overriding priority would be an owner that ensures the long term stability of the club.

The events at Newcastle will be interesting and amongst the hysteria of knowing that lots of money will be thrown at it, no one seems bothered that the Saudis have zero connection to the club and city, or what happens when they eventually pull out, with huge overheads and probably huge debts too.

It's typical of football, we complain about it being ruined by money, but then want a rich owner to 'ruin' our club too.

The competition in football is more about finances now than ever and it makes for an ugly, tainted product.
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The inconvenient truth is that MFC is an absolute financial mess. We have an owner who does not invest, he builds up debt through horrendous mistakes.
Every episode plunges the club into ever more unsaleable territory.
Why is it wrong to want to break the cycle? because he is local?
 
My own view and it might be unpopular is that we are far far too parochial on and off the pitch. The lack of foreign investment in today’s football is simply myopic as for all the praise Gibson gets I agree that he has done well but we really should be looking for other revenue steams.

people on here say but who would back us well the likes of Barnsley have done it and are they struggling are they unhappy…

the days of one local man owning all the club are long gone. I just hope that this insular view that some hold so dear doesn’t end up being our undoing.

look at his bizarre view on appointing current managers now this has seriously held us back.
 
Jonny Ingbar said:
It's typical of football, we complain about it being ruined by money, but then want a rich owner to 'ruin' our club too.
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That's the bottom line. Everyone hates the money, but wants to be on the gravy train too.

I'd still like to see flat rate budget caps imposed for each division. Some object it's an artificial restriction on competition, but we have lots of artificial devices for restricting competition now.

How much money a Chinese betting company is prepared to throw at you, how many tacky shirts you can flog to American kids, and how much a sugar daddy is prepared to "invest" have nothing to do with football, and are artificial limits on competition.
 
We’ve spent money in the past- and wasted tens of millions chasing dreams that don’t appear to be that well thought out. The mismanagement and poor decision making have helped our debt reach monumental proportions. Yet some still claim he is completely innocent- when he is in sole charge.

How anyone can be happy with the situation we are completely unsaleable is beyond me.
 
indeedido said:
The inconvenient truth is that MFC is an absolute financial mess. We have an owner who does not invest, he builds up debt through horrendous mistakes.
Every episode plunges the club into ever more unsaleable territory.
Why is it wrong to want to break the cycle? because he is local?
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I'm not sure I agree that we're a 'financial mess', what do you base that view on.

We are solvent and sustainable.

Gibson has backed every manager as much as he can, albeit his choices have been met with varied success.
 
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