BlindBoyGrunt
Well-known member
Not this rubbish again.
Which bit?
Not this rubbish again.
Which bit?
Well he did conceal a £50,000 donation to his leadership challenge until after the results were announced, and it is a lot of money to lay down for no return.The repeated attempts to smear Starmer as a paid zionist shill.
You might have done, but people in high positions in that party fought to ensure that we currently have a Tory govt.And your attitude helps the NHS, grow a pair. Any labour vote is better than the alternative.
I voted for Corbyn who I thought was a prat, but labour first for me.
I really don't know what you are alluding to here; perhaps you can point me to which posts contain nastiness on my part.
Well he did conceal a £50,000 donation to his leadership challenge until after the results were announced, and it is a lot of money to lay down for no return.
Has Coyne been suspended yet??They are getting a return, he is VISIBLY tackling antisemitism in the Party.
Unless they disagree with him or back Corbyn's stance on Palestine, then they get kicked out of the party.They are getting a return, he is VISIBLY tackling antisemitism in the Party.
Including you it seems.You might have done, but people in high positions in that party fought to ensure that we currently have a Tory govt.
Unless they disagree with him or back Corbyn's stance on Palestine, then they get kicked out of the party.
RLB was sacked for liking an article that her friend had written in which she criticised the Israeli security forces and US police. The article contained no anti-Semitism.
Rachel Reeves was promoted shortly after this tribute to a raging jew hater and Hitler admirer.
I've voted Labour in every election, I've been of age to do so. I door knocked in 2017 and 19. I spent my own money on labour membership. Explain to me how I've fought for a Tory govt?Including you it seems.
This is your attempt to paint me as something I'm not, but you'd like me to be because it eases cognitive dissonance for people who have a narrative of the world that is more binary than nuanced, if you can firmly square someone away in the camp of the enemy.
This is something that happens on the far Left and the far Right, which is why on some levels there is very little difference between them.
Here we go again. The left are terrible and the same as the far right.
This is your attempt to paint me as something I'm not, but you'd like me to be because it eases cognitive dissonance for people who have a narrative of the world that is more binary than nuanced, if you can firmly square someone away in the camp of the enemy.
Apologies, I had you down as refusing to vote Labour once because of Blair.I've voted Labour in every election, I've been of age to do so. I door knocked in 2017 and 19. I spent my own money on labour membership. Explain to me how I've fought for a Tory govt?
Did I say ‘left’ or ‘far left’?
I never thought he was any of those things, but one of weaknesses to me was his London centric power base. The PMQs mentioning Madge from Dorset should have been a one hit wonder. He just came across to be as a prat. Only a 1% prat compared to BJ though.Do you not think perhaps this exact description could be applied to centrists also though @Lefty? Consider the stuff flung at Corbyn and the left of the party over the last 6 years. Racist, anti semite, Czechoslovakian spy, IRA terrorist sympathiser, Putin stooge, etc, etc.
Roofie, you and l are at opposite ends of this argument. We will never meet in the middle. It's probably an age thing. To me what is happening in Palestine is wrong. We need a two nation state. But if I were a Jew I would not budge an inch on Jerusalem, or trust or believe anything the West said.View attachment 22050Smoke Without Fire: The Myth of a ‘Labour Antisemitism Crisis’
Note: This article by Jamie Stern-Weiner and Alan Maddison features in an eBook on the ‘Labour antisemitism’ controversy edited by…www.jewishvoiceforlabour.org.ukSmoke Without Fire: The Myth of a ‘Labour Antisemitism Crisis’
Dont swallow the myth there is one homogenous "Jewish community" and that The Borad of Deputies or the Jewish Chronicle represent all Jews.
The fact is, the prevailing narrative in Starmers Labour Party is that "real" Jews support the Zionist Israel Apartheid State - any Jew who supports the rights of Palestinians has been [and continues today] to be labeled "anti-semitic" and expelled. So to be a [real?!] "Jew" - you have to support the occupation and destruction of Palestine!
The authority which Starmer allows to dictate its support for Israeli Apartheid, by banning debate and expelling anti-racists and Jewish members, is not "anti-semitic" - quite the opposite: it conflates criticism of Israeli racist laws and occupation with being anti - Jew. It believes that if you dont support Israel - you are the "wrong type of Jew" - which in itself is anti-semitic.
Look no further for a hater of [non-zionist] Jews than Neil Coyle:
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Jewish Voice for Labour is not a "Communist" organistion - it was set up to provide a voice for those who oppose the Racist Israeli regime and give Jews the opportunity to be heard.
Meet Naomi Wimborne-Idrissi - a third generation holocaust survivor and member of Jewish Voice for Labour. Far more able than I to explain....
Note: This article by Jamie Stern-Weiner and Alan Maddison features in an eBook on the ‘Labour antisemitism’ controversy edited by Jamie Stern-Weiner. [Jamie Stern-Weiner is a graduate student in Middle Eastern Studies at the University of Oxford. A dual British-Israeli national]
This FREE eBook is now available – click here to download it.
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The link below is an interesting read from a Jewish perspective.Roofie, you and l are at opposite ends of this argument. We will never meet in the middle. It's probably an age thing. To me what is happening in Palestine is wrong. We need a two nation state. But if I were a Jew I would not budge an inch on Jerusalem, or trust or believe anything the West said.