Just sack him now.

For those backing him

what’s the point if he’s going in the summer anyway. Why waste a window on warnock type players.
Just write off the entire season when we're 3 points off the playoffs with our first choice back four out of action?
By January we will be firmly mid table with no prospect of the play offs or relegation. There would be no need to buy any players and pointless.

Might as well limp on to the Summer with him and get a new manager in then. Therefore we don’t need to pay Warnock any compensation.
The league is so tight! Mid table in January still leaves you one or two games away from the playoffs!!
I highly doubt we'll be signing any Warnock type players in January. Any recruitment will be done firmly with the next manager in mind.
What are 'Warnock type players?' - we need cover in defence and it sounds like were getting a new striker. Ameobi seems to have vanished.
I wouldn't be so sure about that. His quotes from yesterday's Gazette.

“I suppose it is difficult at the minute because they might be looking at not bringing too many that Neil Warnock wants when they’ve got to look longer term for the club," he conceded.

“So it’s a matter of helping me at the same time as looking to the future.

“We wanted to sign Peltier and Bamba and people like them because we didn’t think the squad was big enough and these guys have proven invaluable.

“I still think there is a place for getting players from England, but there are good players from abroad which the recruitment team are looking at.
Warnock brought in Peltier and Bamba.. without them we would have been well and truly done in. 3 points off the playoffs
 
Just write off the entire season when we're 3 points off the playoffs with our first choice back four out of action?

The league is so tight! Mid table in January still leaves you one or two games away from the playoffs!!

What are 'Warnock type players?' - we need cover in defence and it sounds like were getting a new striker. Ameobi seems to have vanished.

Warnock brought in Peltier and Bamba.. without them we would have been well and truly done in. 3 points off the playoffs
Warnock got away with writing off the season in February last time out, so why can’t people write it off in November?
 
No one can convince me that the dressing room is "positive"!.
It's just made up drivel. We're 3 points off the playoffs and you think what? The players are in bits? Confidence shot? All this because of Warnock? Were 3 points off the playoffs. You'd think we were fighting for survival with 3 games left. We're not even half way! Warnocks record was near on exactly the same as Karanka's yet folks were calling for his head?

Unbelievable!
 
Just write off the entire season when we're 3 points off the playoffs with our first choice back four out of action?

The league is so tight! Mid table in January still leaves you one or two games away from the playoffs!!

What are 'Warnock type players?' - we need cover in defence and it sounds like were getting a new striker. Ameobi seems to have vanished.

Warnock brought in Peltier and Bamba.. without them we would have been well and truly done in. 3 points off the playoffs
What was the team against QPR?
 
Warnock got away with writing off the season in February last time out, so why can’t people write it off in November?
He was lowering the fans expectations. We didn't have enough in the squad to make it to/through the playoffs. We gambled on the likes of NML & Bolasie, it didn't pay off and we ended up stuck with Assombalonga. Injuries to Fry and Tavernier had a big effect, I think Warnock had a good feel for where we were and what we were capable of.

Change out Britt for Diedhiou, have NML & Bolasie up to speed and avoid injuries to Fry and Tavernier and we look like a different team. One that I can see in the playoffs. This season, put our back four back in and I can see us in play off positions.
 
He was lowering the fans expectations. We didn't have enough in the squad to make it to/through the playoffs. We gambled on the likes of NML & Bolasie, it didn't pay off and we ended up stuck with Assombalonga. Injuries to Fry and Tavernier had a big effect, I think Warnock had a good feel for where we were and what we were capable of.

Change out Britt for Diedhiou, have NML & Bolasie up to speed and avoid injuries to Fry and Tavernier and we look like a different team. One that I can see in the playoffs. This season, put our back four back in and I can see us in play off positions.
Your ever increasing desperation to defend Warnock’s management I have to say is very amusing.😂
 
one game we lost 3-2 to a Jonny Howson own goal.. these things happen. It's not the entire season.

6th place last week, still 3 points away from the playoffs, first choice back four out, same start as karanka, etc etc etc
To be accurate Dijksteeel played last night so not all 4 of your first choice defence were out last night were they.
 
'first choice back four out'

Stop repeating this nonsense. Our best centre back and best full back played last night. Alongside them we had McNair in his best position and chose to leave out a full back who had performed well recently.

We went with a back three because that's what the manager WANTED to do, he wasn't forced into it.
 
'first choice back four out'

Stop repeating this nonsense. Our best centre back and best full back played last night. Alongside them we had McNair in his best position and chose to leave out a full back who had performed well recently.

We went with a back three because that's what the manager WANTED to do, he wasn't forced into it.
Spot on
 
Newy, do you have some sort of vested interest in Warnock being manager? Your constant defence of everything he does is bizarre, and this is coming from someone who thinks he still has something to offer the club. However, he is certainly not without reproach or criticism. I certainly have more questions than answers at the minute.
just a boro fan who's seen it all before.

tearing up this season just because fans think we should be top two from a standing start everyone hitting the ground running, injuries having no effect. crazy!

this has been going on before the season started, I dipped my toe into the boro trolls coven and could see the chosen narrative that was being churned out. I'm not going to echo what others are saying if I believe it to be untrue.

I'm not in the gurning emoji gang desperate to see a new face at all costs, I'm not going to subscribe to the idea that Kieran Scott is the be all and end all of football recruitment, I'm going to follow my own path as ever.. I don't need to run some click bait line to shift papers or podcast subscriptions, I'll just stick to the facts thank you very much. I'll keep on supporting my team, looking forward to us coming out of the other side of our injury crisis in decent shape. improvements/patch ups in January and i'll still be supporting the team on our way (hopefully) to a play off place.

I'm still critical of the team/manager/recruitment/etc when I see fit, mistakes by Peltier, Bamba, Lumley etc magnified in defeat. our complete failure you recruit defenders in the summer magnified of course by injuries.

Should we drop off and look totally out of it with our key players available I would like any other fan in the country consider making a change, were not there yet, we not even close. If the anti Warnock sentiment picks up it could be a self fulfilling prophesy and we will fail where we could have succeeded. I don't want to see that happen. If Warnock is retiring at the end of the season, so be it.. but I'm not writing off the season as a result like some spoilt petulant child demanding the latest action figures or video games before they're even released.

On to West Brom with a bit of the old 3-4-3 against my pre season favourites for the title. UTB!
 
'first choice back four out'

Stop repeating this nonsense. Our best centre back and best full back played last night. Alongside them we had McNair in his best position and chose to leave out a full back who had performed well recently.

We went with a back three because that's what the manager WANTED to do, he wasn't forced into it.
I'm afraid it's not nonsense my friend. We fielded nigh on the best team we could have in the circumstances.

Dijksteel--Bamba--McNair--Peltier

We'll see
 
just a boro fan who's seen it all before.

tearing up this season just because fans think we should be top two from a standing start everyone hitting the ground running, injuries having no effect. crazy!

this has been going on before the season started, I dipped my toe into the boro trolls coven and could see the chosen narrative that was being churned out. I'm not going to echo what others are saying if I believe it to be untrue.

I'm not in the gurning emoji gang desperate to see a new face at all costs, I'm not going to subscribe to the idea that Kieran Scott is the be all and end all of football recruitment, I'm going to follow my own path as ever.. I don't need to run some click bait line to shift papers or podcast subscriptions, I'll just stick to the facts thank you very much. I'll keep on supporting my team, looking forward to us coming out of the other side of our injury crisis in decent shape. improvements/patch ups in January and i'll still be supporting the team on our way (hopefully) to a play off place.

I'm still critical of the team/manager/recruitment/etc when I see fit, mistakes by Peltier, Bamba, Lumley etc magnified in defeat. our complete failure you recruit defenders in the summer magnified of course by injuries.

Should we drop off and look totally out of it with our key players available I would like any other fan in the country consider making a change, were not there yet, we not even close. If the anti Warnock sentiment picks up it could be a self fulfilling prophesy and we will fail where we could have succeeded. I don't want to see that happen. If Warnock is retiring at the end of the season, so be it.. but I'm not writing off the season as a result like some spoilt petulant child demanding the latest action figures or video games before they're even released.

On to West Brom with a bit of the old 3-4-3 against my pre season favourites for the title. UTB!

Believe me, I've seen it all before!! Last night was enough for me. Their manager saw how his team was struggling, changed it and they didn't look back. Ours didn't!
 
Well we didn't play that four, weren't you watching?
I was watching yes, I saw us winning 0-1 at half time. I saw Josh Coburn make his first full debut for an injured Ikpeazu. I saw Tavernier move into the middle to cover for an Injured Martin Payero. I saw Dijksteel back from injury playing in a back three. I saw Sol Bamba make his 9th league appearance this season (702 minutes) after only managing 24 minutes at the start of last season with Cardiff.. 99 minutes the season before that

I saw us lose a game and drop 3 points away from the play off positions after only 16 games. Was I happy about it? No

Did I kick and scream, throw a tantrum, wet the bed and take to social media and message boards to call for my teams manager to be sacked?

Certainly not.. only divvies do that.
 
I was watching yes, I saw us winning 0-1 at half time. I saw Josh Coburn make his first full debut for an injured Ikpeazu. I saw Tavernier move into the middle to cover for an Injured Martin Payero. I saw Dijksteel back from injury playing in a back three. I saw Sol Bamba make his 9th league appearance this season (702 minutes) after only managing 24 minutes at the start of last season with Cardiff.. 99 minutes the season before that

I saw us lose a game and drop 3 points away from the play off positions after only 16 games. Was I happy about it? No

Did I kick and scream, throw a tantrum, wet the bed and take to social media and message boards to call for my teams manager to be sacked?

Certainly not.. only divvies do that.
You've been kicking and screaming since the game finished, the same as you did after the last game. Your target being anybody criticising a couple of poor performances in which for some the manager played a major role in his team's downfall.

I assume when you slag off the Boro fans you don't include yourself. Despite not noticing the absence of your back four.
 
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