James McClean Abuse

[atypical_boro]

I won't bother directing you to the evidence then.

If it’s cos he wore a Germany top last year, sure, it’s provocative. Andy Murray, the Wales euro 2016 squad all guilty of the same. But they probably hate the English no more than I hate Geordies (which when I’m in “adult mode” is effectively not at all). Doesn’t mean I don’t occasionally wind them up though.

 

[TheYorkshireTerrier]

Being at a football match is nothing like just being on a street though is it?
For example, I don't sing any songs at all if I'm just walking to the shops. (Ok, I once had Rupert the Bear stuck in my head but I didn't belt it out, I just mumbled it a bit).
I don't celebrate wildly and hug strangers if the lollipop man safely gets my granddaughter across the busy road. Even if he does do it with a bit of swagger.
If I see someone running for a bus but just missing it, I don't point and laugh and chant 'who are ya?'

I do that last one sometimes, to be fair!

 

[HolgateCorner]

He’s an extremist politician’s dream.

You can’t beat setting ordinary powerless people against each other, that’s how you get to control them.

 

[JM14]

No, just an Irish bloke who hates the English and everything English and who has earned a pretty penny during his career being employed by companies based in England. A guy who will happily be paid in pounds sterling and pay his taxes in pounds sterling. And let's face it he doesn't just disagree with 'any past actions', it's all actions past present and future.

It makes you wonder why he ever set foot in England doesn't it really?

Employed by a company based in England owned by a company based in Bahrain, in a globally funded game

You do understand the reason why he won’t wear the poppy right? Would be shocked if anyone did being in the same position. It doesn’t exactly mean he needs to sacrifice his career because of his views?

 

[BoroFur]

Employed by a company based in England owned by a company based in Bahrain, in a globally funded game

You do understand the reason why he won’t wear the poppy right? Would be shocked if anyone did being in the same position. It doesn’t exactly mean he needs to sacrifice his career because of his views?

Yes of course I understand why he doesn't wear the poppy. In fact I've never mentioned it here so I'm not really sure why you've brought that up.

He's thick.
He's a hypocrite
He considers Ireland 'home'.
He used to play for Sunderland.

That's enough for me.

 

[JM14]

Yes of course I understand why he doesn't wear the poppy. In fact I've never mentioned it here so I'm not really sure why you've brought that up.

He's thick.
He's a hypocrite
He considers Ireland 'home'.
He used to play for Sunderland.

That's enough for me.

Not sure why any of that would annoy you

 

[BoroFur]

Not sure why any of that would annoy you

Where have I said I'm annoyed?
Everything I've said is fact.

Oh and I forgot, he's also a supporter of a terrorist organisation that in the past has murdered many innocent women and children in England. That's a fact that does annoy me if I'm honest and it should annoy you.

 

[parmoboy]

He's been more than happy to stoke the flames over the years, posting a photo online of himself wearing a Germany top before we played them in the Euros, and the photo of himself wearing a balaclava. If the abuse genuinely affected him I'm sure he would have looked for a move away from England years ago but he probably loves knowing that he gets under peoples' skin.

I don't have an issue with him choosing not to wear a poppy, and being from Londonderry/Derry I understand there is still a lot of bad feeling there due to what happened on Bloody Sunday, but I do find it strange that the likes of him and other Republicans probably don't ever bring up the fact that the IRA killed x4 as many civillians in Londonderry/Derry than the British army. Is he equally appalled at what happened to Patsy Gillespie? An 'operation' which was allegedly ordered by his hero Martin McGuinness.

 

[JM14]

Where have I said I'm annoyed?
Everything I've said is fact.

Oh and I forgot, he's also a supporter of a terrorist organisation that in the past has murdered many innocent women and children in England. That's a fact that does annoy me if I'm honest and it should annoy you.

I’m sure you can also respect the fact of why he may be anti English as well, which really doesn’t justify the abuse he receives every week

 

[JM14]

He's been more than happy to stoke the flames over the years, posting a photo online of himself wearing a Germany top before we played them in the Euros, and the photo of himself wearing a balaclava. If the abuse genuinely affected him I'm sure he would have looked for a move away from England years ago but he probably loves knowing that he gets under peoples' skin.

I don't have an issue with him choosing not to wear a poppy, and being from Londonderry/Derry I understand there is still a lot of bad feeling there due to what happened on Bloody Sunday, but I do find it strange that the likes of him and other Republicans probably don't ever bring up the fact that the IRA killed x4 as many civillians in Londonderry/Derry than the British army. Is he equally appalled at what happened to Patsy Gillespie? An 'operation' which was allegedly ordered by his hero Martin McGuinness.

He probably chooses to stay because he is getting paid millions. Not sure it’s justifiable that grown adults would get so upset by what football shirt he chose to wear

 

[Corcaigh_the_Cat]

No, just an Irish bloke who hates the English and everything English and who has earned a pretty penny during his career being employed by companies based in England. A guy who will happily be paid in pounds sterling and pay his taxes in pounds sterling. And let's face it he doesn't just disagree with 'any past actions', it's all actions past present and future.

It makes you wonder why he ever set foot in England doesn't it really?

He's from a country where sterling is the currency, what do you expect him to be paid in and pay his taxes in?

Or did you think Derry was abroad?

 

[Colin Warnek]

Let’s just say his balaclava video didn’t do him many favours in that extent.

End of thread.

 

[Corcaigh_the_Cat]

He does realise his uk taxes pay for the armed forces though.

Hence the discontent with the actions of some of them.

 

[BoroFur]

He's from a country where sterling is the currency, what do you expect him to be paid in and pay his taxes in?

Or did you think Derry was abroad?

Not sure why you feel the need to take the pi$$ CtC.

 

[BoroFur]

I’m sure you can also respect the fact of why he may be anti English as well, which really doesn’t justify the abuse he receives every week

Right so he is anti-English then. In which case he's anti-me.
Things that happened before he was born?
I mean, I'm not holding a grudge against the Germans for killing my ancestors.
Or against the Argentinians for blowing up my cousin's warship.

 

[Quicksilvera]

James McClean is an IRA sympathiser who In todays world are in the game of arms, drugs and murdering PSNI officers.

 

[TeaCider]

I won't bother directing you to the evidence then.

What evidence is there?

Being an Irish nationalist does not mean he hates everything English.

Not wanting to wear a poppy because he's from a city where civilians from his community were murdered by British soldiers is a fair reason, and is not anti-English.

Not facing the English flag during a national anthem is a bit rude, but an Irish nationalist from Northern Ireland is obviously going to have a very fraught relationship with British symbols and pageantry.

Pro-IRA comments are out of order, but it's not unexpected from a man from a community that is inevitably going to view the fight for Irish unification as a positive and see their actions through rose-tinted glasses.
One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter.

He's clearly a bit daft and hasn't helped himself over the years, but I've never seen any comments from him that are specifically anti-English or England, so I'd be interested to see your evidence.

Most of the actions over the years have been rejecting symbols of the British state, which is obviously going to happen when he wants Northern Ireland to unify with the Republic and cease to be under British rule.

The worst I've seen is him being in the Anyone But England camp, but millions of people who are quite happy to be British follow that rule too.

 

[atypical_boro]

going off on a tangent should we consider IOM, N Ireland etc as “abroad”. What is the official definition? I have a work colleague who often talks about when she lived abroad but I know it was Guernsey.

 

[JM14]

Right so he is anti-English then. In which case he's anti-me.
Things that happened before he was born?
I mean, I'm not holding a grudge against the Germans for killing my ancestors.
Or against the Argentinians for blowing up my cousin's warship.

Genuinely can’t believe the extent that some get wound up over him

Would you wear a symbol supporting the Argentinian or German army if they had killed members of your family?

 

[TeaCider]

going off on a tangent should we consider IOM, N Ireland etc as “abroad”. What is the official definition? I have a work colleague who often talks about when she lived abroad but I know it was Guernsey.

Northern Ireland isn't abroad, it's an integral part of the UK.

The Isle of Man, Guernsey and Jersey and the overseas territories are British, but they're not part of the UK, so I think it's less of a stretch to say you're abroad, as it's not the same country.
But they're also not really foreign.