Is Swansea heading for a sell out?
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HolgateCorner
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They are a huge club in a massive city so no surprises if their fans are new season optimistic.
Redwurzel
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Sheff Wed are traditionally the Sheffield club with the highest crowds. Not sure why but they tend to get fans from all over South Yorkshire and South Humberside, while SU is more the City of Sheffield particularly the south side of the City. I remember going to a game at Hillsboro and there was 48k against MU in 1985.
NorthumberlandBoro
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I think I think they are perceived to be bigger than they actually are fan wise.
The last season we were both in the prem our crowds were on a par.
The last season we were both in the prem our crowds were on a par.
GingerTravel
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This is very true, especially for fans who don't live in the area. It costs around £100-£150 for tickets and train for my son and I to get to Boro, and a 12:30 kick off would mean driving or a 6am start.
I've got Sky Sports anyway, so no extra cost, and with a 2:30 finish we were able to go and watch Harborough Town straight after the game for £14.
I don't think it means we ourselves will see any fewer Boro games, but will definitely be selective with which ones, and the 12:30 kick offs are extremely unlikely. I do think it's good for the Championship that more games are being shown on TV though, it just won't help attendances.
A 6% increase on season tickets which were already the highest in the division...to still get to 20k season tickets is quite remarkable.
Then to sell another 6k walk ups which again which are the highest in the league.
Then take into consideration 12.30 kick off and live on sky only 500 Swansea made the trip...excellent effort.
Then to sell another 6k walk ups which again which are the highest in the league.
Then take into consideration 12.30 kick off and live on sky only 500 Swansea made the trip...excellent effort.
There was over 29k for our opening fixture last season. Not sure the early kick off knocks that many off. There was over 28k for the last game of the season with nothing to play for and that was a 12:30 as well. Our biggest attendance of the season, Sunderland at home, was a 12:00 kick off.
In a season which I think shows a lot of promise the ticket prices are putting people off attending. There's nothing negative about the team at the moment so it really should have been a bumper crowd. 26k is an average crowd and opening day fixture should be above average.
In a season which I think shows a lot of promise the ticket prices are putting people off attending. There's nothing negative about the team at the moment so it really should have been a bumper crowd. 26k is an average crowd and opening day fixture should be above average.
Redwurzel
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I can tell you as a long distance traveller 12.30 is a put off.
For 12.30 start it can be a 5am start, instead of 7.30am.
It is different for people who only live within one hours travel. (-200 home fans based away)
I don't know what the Swansea figure was but from the TV it looked like a block at best, less than half that came from Millwall. (-450 to 500)
Live TV must take around 20% off the home fans walk up numbers too, especially when its £32 to £33 a ticket. (-1150)
My guess is the adult price rise took another -700 off
I also don't consider Swansea an attractive draw or even an average draw nowadays - they will probably be below half way in the table this season and its a long time since they were a Premier League Club.
The crowd against might surprise people as people will be expecting about 25k.
For 12.30 start it can be a 5am start, instead of 7.30am.
It is different for people who only live within one hours travel. (-200 home fans based away)
I don't know what the Swansea figure was but from the TV it looked like a block at best, less than half that came from Millwall. (-450 to 500)
Live TV must take around 20% off the home fans walk up numbers too, especially when its £32 to £33 a ticket. (-1150)
My guess is the adult price rise took another -700 off
I also don't consider Swansea an attractive draw or even an average draw nowadays - they will probably be below half way in the table this season and its a long time since they were a Premier League Club.
The crowd against might surprise people as people will be expecting about 25k.
The thing that really annoys me about the 12:30 kick off is it starts clashing with grassroots football.
Kids shouldn't be choosing between playing and going to matches. They should be able to do both.
You forgot to add any on for the people where the early kick off is more convenient. Anyone that works evenings in a bar/restaurant that would start at 5/6pm. Lots of people prefer the early kickoff even if more prefer the later time.
Also, I think the prices and the live TV is a combination. People would still go even if it was on TV if the price was more reasonable.
I don't think the "draw" of Swansea matters. There's only 2 or 3 teams that will increase attendance because of the opposition. 1st game of the season is the draw, not the opposition.
johnsmithsno2
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Plenty of Teesside kids also play Russell Foster which is played on a Saturday morning.
TJFA girls play on a Saturday morning.
Lots of training sessions are on Saturday mornings
Saturday is a busy day for kids football.
I lost 3 players out my squad on Saturday because they are season ticket holders and I had one kid who chose to miss the Boro game and play. Tournament had been arranged for a couple of months as a 9am-1pm tournament, Before the match was announced as a 12:30
VestasBoro
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I think TJFA do but the RFYL play Saturdays
My lad had a friendly Sat morning in place of usual training session, just moved it forward an hour to be sure everyone was away in time to get to the game.
Some clubs have more flexibility to do this than others don't they. Depends on how busy the pitches are.
Russell Foster won't change kick off times for matches as their games are played at a central venue and the pitches are booked solid from 8.45 through to 13.30.
Frozen Horse
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I think our season ticket sales for the 23/24 season were influenced by our form during the early bird window.
On the day that window closed, we were 3 points off 2nd place with 8 games to play. There was a realistic prospect that fans were buying STs for PL football. Some were prepared to make an educated gamble.
Our form turned almost the day after (8 points from 8 games after, 50 from 21 immediately before)
This year was almost the opposite: our form picked up as soon as the EB window closed, but there was 0 prospect of PL football either during the window, or over the Summer
I do not pretend price hasnt been the key factor for some. However ST sales would have fallen if they'd stayed the same as there was no prospect of PL football to encourage customers this time around.
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VestasBoro
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Yeah thats one of the main reasons i've swayed my lads away from joining RFYL clubs. They've played TJFA for years but this year they've been asked to join RFYL clubs aswell and just the chew on a Saturday has made it not worthwhile.
Saturdays they both have training, ones 0900-1030 and the other 0930-1100 so it works.
NorthumberlandBoro
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I love the notion that 26k home fans at a Boro game in the second tier is mediocre.
Take a look at our average attendances in the second tier over the past 30/40 years.
I'm not saying our tickets aren't expensive, but let's look at the facts re attendance.
Take a look at our average attendances in the second tier over the past 30/40 years.
I'm not saying our tickets aren't expensive, but let's look at the facts re attendance.
Redwurzel
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I agree there was a 40% chance we would be in the Premier League in 2023 while in 2024 virtually no chance by mid March.
Corcaigh_the_Cat
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That was a good gate on Saturday, as were many others in the Championship.
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