Is Brexit a major cause of the current food shortgages in the UK?

Of course its brexit related, this is a laughable argument

It the same nonsense when the tories waffle about of GDP and blaming covid and ukraine when every other economy in the EU has already recovered and has no issue with food

I live in Germany, no nonsense like here, came back to xmas to see family, couldn't even buy eggs, back home this weekend for the football, now no veg , food comically overpriced

The UK post brexit, no hope, no money, no food - but the most important thing is less 'blackies' coming over getting free mansions and S class mercs,
Plenty of jobs going for the new border force i heard, lets make britain great again by drowning the poor brown people coming over on boats - just imagine
how amazing the UK economy would be if it wasn't for a few somalians coming over for a better life
 
BoroMart said:
whatever metric anyone uses, brexit has been a failure. IF the Success Factors were to resolve the immigration issue, it's failed, illegal immigration is higher than ever. If it was to kick start our trade, it's failed, the economy is in tatters. If it was to return sovereignty to parliament, then that has failed too as this government have proven that parliament isn't fit to ensure that governments are honest not corrupt, this government is working on behalf of pressure groups from Tufton St, and by installing numerous puppet PMs against the will of the public, it isn't a functioning democracy.

Brexit is a failure.
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That’s what I don’t get man. The redwurzels and cornices of this world spend so much energy trying to deflect from it?

Why. What is their motivation? We all know it has failed. They do, they must do they aren’t dumb. I just can’t understand why you’d expend so much energy trying to deflect from the problem.

This country has lots of problems but one can actually be fixed, if the nation United to force this in power to fix it. Why would you not do that. Why would you ignore the problem and talk about the weather or Putin instead? It’s weird to me. It can’t just be because they are too embarrassed to have voted for it, and I don’t believe they are “sovereignty” bigots like most brexitists. So why the energy to avoid the issue?
 
BoroMart said:
whatever metric anyone uses, brexit has been a failure. IF the Success Factors were to resolve the immigration issue, it's failed, illegal immigration is higher than ever. If it was to kick start our trade, it's failed, the economy is in tatters. If it was to return sovereignty to parliament, then that has failed too as this government have proven that parliament isn't fit to ensure that governments are honest not corrupt, this government is working on behalf of pressure groups from Tufton St, and by installing numerous puppet PMs against the will of the public, it isn't a functioning democracy.

Brexit is a failure.
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Brexit is directly responsible for small boat crossings.

BTW, there is no such thing as an illeagal asylum seeker.
 
Hot news from Darlo Co-Op - there were two packets of tomatoes on the shelves. I made it through the great salad famine of 2023.

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Gunslinger said:
Of course its brexit related, this is a laughable argument

It the same nonsense when the tories waffle about of GDP and blaming covid and ukraine when every other economy in the EU has already recovered and has no issue with food

I live in Germany, no nonsense like here, came back to xmas to see family, couldn't even buy eggs, back home this weekend for the football, now no veg , food comically overpriced

The UK post brexit, no hope, no money, no food - but the most important thing is less 'blackies' coming over getting free mansions and S class mercs,
Plenty of jobs going for the new border force i heard, lets make britain great again by drowning the poor brown people coming over on boats - just imagine
how amazing the UK economy would be if it wasn't for a few somalians coming over for a better life
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If birds could fly you'd have no eggs over there either.
 
Laughing said:
Brexit is directly responsible for small boat crossings.

BTW, there is no such thing as an illeagal asylum seeker.
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Agreed it has escalated small boat crossing, so it's made it worse.

Sorry, I should and usually put illegal in quote marks, as that is the perception of the brexiteers. It's not mine
 
Malaguena said:
You're just down the road from me, but the weather has not been far worse than usual - it's been exactly as it always is in January and February down here - we always get rain, wind, and low temperatures in January and February, even down to 8. As I mentioned upthread, there's been a couple of cold snaps but absolutely nothing "extreme".

And just to repeat, there are no shortages of any fruit and veg, and nobody is walking round in big coats
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Does tend to be a bit worse in Gib than Spain, being a peninsula and all that. Get all the crap from all sides. And trust me, plenty of people having been walking round with massive coats on for weeks. Not me, I'm hard, obviously. Haven't really noticed a shortage in fruit & veg though. They did have a limit on cucumbers and tomatoes in Morrisons but I think that was just because Morrisons were doing it in the UK
 
Malaguena said:
You're just down the road from me, but the weather has not been far worse than usual - it's been exactly as it always is in January and February down here - we always get rain, wind, and low temperatures in January and February, even down to 8. As I mentioned upthread, there's been a couple of cold snaps but absolutely nothing "extreme".

And just to repeat, there are no shortages of any fruit and veg, and nobody is walking round in big coats
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Winston Churchill Avenue.png Big coats everywhere I tell thee! Brrrrr....
 
BoroMart said:
Agreed it has escalated small boat crossing, so it's made it worse.

Sorry, I should and usually put illegal in quote marks, as that is the perception of the brexiteers. It's not mine
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I assumed it was a mistype, I would associate you with stuff like that, generally.
 
If there is no weather related element to the shortgae of tomatoes, I can see the price of tomatoes increasing in the UK, which will eventually increase supply in our capitalist system (as every economist will tell you). I can also see UK production increasing despite our cool climate (but similar to Holland which is a major European producer). It will create jobs with UK growers and my feeling increase wages. The pressure on the ports wil reduce as fewer imported tomatoes come in. The loser of course is the UK consumer having to pay more and to a lesser extent Spanish and other EU growers. 99p for a pack of tomatoes will be no more.
 
Redwurzel said:
If there is no weather related element to the shortgae of tomatoes, I can see the price of tomatoes increasing in the UK, which will eventually increase supply in our capitalist system (as every economist will tell you). I can also see UK production increasing despite our cool climate (but similar to Holland which is a major European producer). It will create jobs with UK growers and my feeling increase wages. The pressure on the ports wil reduce as fewer imported tomatoes come in. The loser of course is the UK consumer having to pay more and to a lesser extent Spanish and other EU growers. 99p for a pack of tomatoes will be no more.
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Spot on. Numerous interesting articles citing the relentless drive for cheap food, spearheaded by the supermarkets, as a major factor here. One aspect is sourcing from Morocco, rather than Spain. Food, a little like air travel, has been unsustainably cheap for too long.
Although I’m vegan, I do have friends in the diary and cattle farming business, who are being squeezed out of existence by the big multiples.
 
I do help a local fruit farm by buying produce there, but it is seasonal - they open in early September and close early February. Their prices are the same as the big supermarkets, but offer better quality and better variety (of apples). They farm also lets you try first. They offer pick your own if you want to pay less.

I know with dairy and meat its less practical to buy direct.

I am lucky that there are local outlets for local fruit, vegetables and eggs.

On milk the supermarkets and selling it at £1.35/litre and the last I heard paying 30p/litre that is a massive mark up for overheads and profit. Hence the owner of one can afford to give £2m to the Labour Party?
 
Redwurzel said:
If there is no weather related element to the shortgae of tomatoes, I can see the price of tomatoes increasing in the UK, which will eventually increase supply in our capitalist system (as every economist will tell you). I can also see UK production increasing despite our cool climate (but similar to Holland which is a major European producer). It will create jobs with UK growers and my feeling increase wages. The pressure on the ports wil reduce as fewer imported tomatoes come in. The loser of course is the UK consumer having to pay more and to a lesser extent Spanish and other EU growers. 99p for a pack of tomatoes will be no more.
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Why did noone say at the time that a vote for Brexit is a vote for higher food prices? Oh I remember, it was 'project fear', now a reality as it was always going to be.
 
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