I dont understand the vitriol towards Cattermole.

Druss_The_Legend said:
For me I don't have a problem with Cattermole it's just too early in his coaching career to be thrown into a team in our position. Even carrick who has been a coach and assistant at Man U for the past 4 years and played at a higher level throughout his career than Cattermole, Carrick isn't proven enough for my liking unless he brought in some experienced coaches alongside him. I don't even have a problem with the theory of internal promotions if a coach has proved himself as a u18/u23 coach and manager by winning trophies but at the momen he has less than a years experienceas an under 18s coach. Maybe Cattermole could manage us in 6 or 7 years if he proves his abilities as a coach and manager, but at present he shouldn't be in contention.
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He should be nowhere near
I see relegation if he is
 
Alot of current English coaches and managers have a history. Rooney and Gerrard being 2 that immediately spring to mind.

I'm not sure what he was like when he was 20 have any sway now. Same as if u or me go for a job.

Although I would prefer other candidates.
 
Boro_Scally said:
Because it was a disaster with Woodgate, and now they're potentially trying to do it again with someone with even less experience. People have moe than the right to be annoyed by this link.
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This.

Nothing personal with Cattermole but we’ve seen it before with Southgate and Woodgate.

It stinks of the easy, cheap, parochial, unimaginative, panic buy and deeply unambitious option. All the worst of Gibson in one. You can’t just give it to any random ex-Boro player in a tracksuit every time you fire a manager and fail to prepare to find another one, or can’t handle a manager who knows their business and will stand up to you.

If he’s seriously in the frame for the job, it makes an absolute mockery of any sort of strategy we’re trying to apply to the club.
 
And Steve F***ing Agnew is a specialist in failure.

The Cattermole speculation alone you can laugh off as “oh yeah, it’s that point in the cycle where we search far and wide for a new manager before appointing anyone at the club with a TS postcode who can work PowerPoint, before they get fired after 4 months with us in the relegation places and we appoint a dinosaur as firefighter” but adding Agnew to the mix makes a dream ticket of *****.

Record as Boro manager: played 11, won 1. If that’s good enough to earn you another job at Boro then I’d honestly have Nobby as Director of Football 😂
 
jonny_greenings_sock said:
This.

Nothing personal with Cattermole but we’ve seen it before with Southgate and Woodgate.

It stinks of the easy, cheap, parochial, unimaginative, panic buy and deeply unambitious option. All the worst of Gibson in one. You can’t just give it to any random ex-Boro player in a tracksuit every time you fire a manager and fail to prepare to find another one, or can’t handle a manager who knows their business and will stand up to you.

If he’s seriously in the frame for the job, it makes an absolute mockery of any sort of strategy we’re trying to apply to the club.
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It worked with Southgate! We had to reduce costs and he kept us in the prem until the banks wouldn’t let us buy players.. at all.

Woodgate did better than many more experienced managers in the championship. He did it with no help and vet little investment. He carried absolute duffers whilst bringing on and developing younger players.
 
jonny_greenings_sock said:
And Steve F***ing Agnew is a specialist in failure.

The Cattermole speculation alone you can laugh off as “oh yeah, it’s that point in the cycle where we search far and wide for a new manager before appointing anyone at the club with a TS postcode who can work PowerPoint, before they get fired after 4 months with us in the relegation places and we appoint a dinosaur as firefighter” but adding Agnew to the mix makes a dream ticket of *****.

Record as Boro manager: played 11, won 1. If that’s good enough to earn you another job at Boro then I’d honestly have Nobby as Director of Football 😂
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Assistant manager between 2008-2012 & 2014-2017 does that not count for anything?
 
newyddion said:
But his record as assistant is quiet good
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Mate it’s bloody awful.

Number 2 to Strachan and Mowbray here? That’s the worst we’ve been in memory.

Karanka years I’ll give you but I didn’t see Agnew as part of Karanka’s brains trust, more like Gibson’s mate who had a spot on the bench, the Hignett type. Karanka’s team was Leo, the fitness coach, Orta and a few other Spanish coaches.

Since then he’s been number 2 to Steve flipping Bruce at Villa, Sheff Wed, Newcastle and WBA - absolutely disastrous appointments.
 
jonny_greenings_sock said:
Mate it’s bloody awful.

Number 2 to Strachan and Mowbray here? That’s the worst we’ve been in memory.

Karanka years I’ll give you but I didn’t see Agnew as part of Karanka’s brains trust, more like Gibson’s mate who had a spot on the bench, the Hignett type. Karanka’s team was Leo, the fitness coach, Orta and a few other Spanish coaches.

Since then he’s been number 2 to Steve flipping Bruce at Villa, Sheff Wed, Newcastle and WBA - absolutely disastrous appointments.
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Assistant Manager of: Gareth Southgate (59 Games), Gordon Strachan (46 Games), Colin Cooper (1 Game) Aitor Karanka (113 Games) *SCENE MISSING* Garry Monk (25 Games)
 
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