How concerned are you about climate change?

Brian Marwood

Brian Marwood

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And does your efforts to change match that concern?

I’m extremely concerned, particularly for my younger kids yet I fly frequently and I drive a guzzling diesel SUV.

I would therefore say that my efforts don’t match my concern.

How about you?
 
Very.
We heat our home via a ASHP
One of our 2 cars is a EV- the other a 1ltr Diesel. If we could afford 2 EV's we would have 2.
We prefer to go on the train than drive, and haven't flew for over 2 years, when and if we do, it's a once a year holiday.
We recycle everything, our recycle bin is always full on bin day and the normal bin is rarely full.

Sadly I drive an artic for a living, which kinda lets us down.
 
Recently been to Sri Lanka and everyone there was saying they haven't had heat like this ever, and when it should be raining it's weeks of heatwave, and when it should be heatwave its torrential downpour, both very extreme weather conditions.
 
Concerned that it will be a major issue but fully aware that whatever I do won't make a blind bit of difference. I'm usually of the every little helps mindset but even if as a country we were 100% green it still wouldn't make a blind bit of difference because there are too many other people in the world that aren't green.

I do my bit too minimise my impact but I know that most green things are mostly just middle class posturing. Not everyone is well off enough to make good choices. Not everyone can have an EV for example.
 
Brian Marwood said:
And does your efforts to change match that concern?

I’m extremely concerned, particularly for my younger kids yet I fly frequently and I drive a guzzling diesel SUV.

I would therefore say that my efforts don’t match my concern.

How about you?
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Very.

It's coming to a head, rapidly, I fear.
 
We make massive efforts but reality is there are two major issues that nullify most effort

1) corporate / industrial usage
2) developing nations / China / Russia etc
 
Very. I’ve lived in the south east for 20+ years. I haven’t seen a proper layer of snow for about 18 years now. Summers have been getting hotter and hotter every damn year. To unbearable levels.

Actions I’ve taken: deive electric car, produce most of that electricity myself through solar and reduced my household grid consumption massively. I’ve also started to consciously reduce my meat intake
 
TheLodger said:
Very.
We heat our home via a ASHP
One of our 2 cars is a EV- the other a 1ltr Diesel. If we could afford 2 EV's we would have 2.
We prefer to go on the train than drive, and haven't flew for over 2 years, when and if we do, it's a once a year holiday.
We recycle everything, our recycle bin is always full on bin day and the normal bin is rarely full.

Sadly I drive an artic for a living, which kinda lets us down.
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Ashp — can you give us a summary of your experiences as I’ve considered it.
 
I don't drive and only use public transport. I haven't flown since Stuttgart away (2006). We have good recycling round here but I don't fill the bin because I simply don't buy and use much stuff. It takes several weeks to accumulate enough non-recyclable stuff to put in the bin. I use things until expiry - I have some clothes that are 30+ years old and items, such as hi-fi components, that I've had since the 70s. I'm also vegetarian (and borderline vegan). I guess my main polluting behaviour is that my heating is gas.
 
One postive note are the Chinese are making massive gains in wind and solar power ahead of schedule. Whether thats enough to reduce climate change is still a big doubt though.

On a personal note we have an EV. recycle absolutely loads, have cut down on meat and I work in the renewable sector.
 
BoroMart said:
Ashp — can you give us a summary of your experiences as I’ve considered it.
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Yep, in our experience it's not really much cheaper to run, the cost of running the pump can be as much as a conventional boiler. It does keep your home at a constant temperature, so your never cold, it also stops you overheating the house, which most boilers do from time to time. It will be more beneficial if you can remove gas from your home altogether to save the standing charge, we have a induction oven, but we still do run our hot water from a gas boiler, we chose to do that because the ASHP will struggle to provide really hot water for showers and baths in the extreme cold. We also decided to put in the new gas boiler that takes over the ASHP if the outside temp drops below -5, This isn't strictly needed but we chose to do it.

Our set up including the new gas boiler, new much larger rads throughout the house cost just a little over £11k, but grants was available and still are, but they are not as generous now as they were when we had ours installed, we paid about £3k for ours and the then grants covered the rest.
 
GibbosEmpire said:
Recently been to Sri Lanka and everyone there was saying they haven't had heat like this ever, and when it should be raining it's weeks of heatwave, and when it should be heatwave its torrential downpour, both very extreme weather conditions.
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sounds like it's balanced itself out 🤷‍♂️
 
I just see it as yet another tax. Tax that won't actually go towards green energy etc, but disappear into a black hole. Just another way of fleecing the working class.

I try to do my bit personally, but its like ******* in the wind when you realise that the majority of the world, mostly third world countries, create the problem.
 
I'm concerned in that it's going to be a massive disruption to the species.

Also paralyzed because I know that for civilisation to exist we need to keep using fossil fuels and creating pollution.

Also annoyed because the 'solutions' offered by the powers that be are always about controlling the populations activities whilst living in absolute luxury themselves (private jets etc).

Also angry that 'Green' energy actually tends to be a misleading pile of **** like the very specific expensive oil that goes in wind turbines every year, the lithium ore mined to make EVs (and the fact it's running out sharply) etc..
 
Nano said:
Concerned that it will be a major issue but fully aware that whatever I do won't make a blind bit of difference. I'm usually of the every little helps mindset but even if as a country we were 100% green it still wouldn't make a blind bit of difference because there are too many other people in the world that aren't green.

I do my bit too minimise my impact but I know that most green things are mostly just middle class posturing. Not everyone is well off enough to make good choices. Not everyone can have an EV for example.
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Perfectly summarised my views - top post, especially the middle class posturing (and virtue signalling) point
 
Am concerned enough to do my bit recycling etc..., but until government's across the world do tangible things further warming and more extreme weather are inevitable. However, my concern isn't enough to take direct action, as I'll be dead before the worst hits!
 
alvez_49 said:
Also angry that 'Green' energy actually tends to be a misleading pile of **** like the very specific expensive oil that goes in wind turbines every year, the lithium ore mined to make EVs (and the fact it's running out sharply) etc..
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Bit isn’t this just big oil misinformation. All evidence is that over the life of an EV it is far less detrimental to the planet. Same with wind turbines https://orsted.com/en/insights/the-fact-file/what-is-the-carbon-footprint-of-offshore-wind
 
Ah, the old climate hoax.
When it comes to science I am a nerd. In the spirit of this I have done my own research into climate change and I'm sorry (not sorry) to say that we, as a species on this planet, are not the problem.
The planet is cyclical with respect to it's climate, and the changed therein. Ice core drilling in particular has identified a natural swing on this planet from times of extreme heat and extreme cold over many millennia. The earth is currently entering one of it's 'hot' cycles.
Sure, man made pollution certainly is healthy, but it's not what is causing any perceived 'climate change'.

Having said that, I am conscious of the impact that humans are making on the planet and I always recycle, try to go for a 'green' option when given a choice. But that is more from the perspective that I dont want to contribute to plastics etc polluting areas of outstanding natural beauty and threatening the existence of the other living organisms that co-exist with us. Not because I'm trying to save the planet from an existential man made global warming disaster.
 
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