Hospitality Fights Back

Alcohol consumed at home only, there's less chance of the wine brigade asreing about causing death and mayhem. If your local can spend that without a brewery it must get stowed out with custom.
Do we need pubs anymore? Policing them and violent crime just be well down and saving the NHS cost and trouble..
There's a lot on here with problems are most alcohol related?
It would be good for lots to leave the wine alone and just have a cuppa or a cokie cola.

Nope
It’s a community pub and he wants to do his best for the community who have supported the business.
 
Alcohol consumed at home only, there's less chance of the wine brigade asreing about causing death and mayhem. If your local can spend that without a brewery it must get stowed out with custom.
Do we need pubs anymore? Policing them and violent crime just be well down and saving the NHS cost and trouble..
There's a lot on here with problems are most alcohol related?
It would be good for lots to leave the wine alone and just have a cuppa or a cokie cola.
You see, there in lies what this last 8 months has produced in this country.

We have a certain amount of the population that have probably been comfortable throughout the period as it hasn't affected them financially or mentally, so all they can say is keep everything closed and balls to the hundreds of thousands of people who will end up without a job or even worse, a business.
 
Alcohol consumed at home only, there's less chance of the wine brigade asreing about causing death and mayhem. If your local can spend that without a brewery it must get stowed out with custom.
Do we need pubs anymore? Policing them and violent crime just be well down and saving the NHS cost and trouble..
There's a lot on here with problems are most alcohol related?
It would be good for lots to leave the wine alone and just have a cuppa or a cokie cola.
Wow.

You think pubs are only about the alcohol served?

You think pubs disappearing stops disorder?

Bet you are fun at parties. 😂
 



So yes?
Quite shocked tbh, I never realised pubs harbour most of the community domestic abusers, 1 poster tells me Pubs are achieving great things for our community another tells me the landlord spends money for his community without a thought of cost.
Your newspaper and BBC facts show closing pubs they All to home and knock fxxx out of the wife, children or GF.
Looking at the cost, I'd rather keep these monsters in the boozer, safer option I apologise.
 
Quite shocked tbh, I never realised pubs harbour most of the community domestic abusers, 1 poster tells me Pubs are achieving great things for our community another tells me the landlord spends money for his community without a thought of cost.
Your newspaper and BBC facts show closing pubs they All to home and knock fxxx out of the wife, children or GF.
Looking at the cost, I'd rather keep these monsters in the boozer, safer option I apologise.

This is the world we hoped would change.

Came back far too soon. A little knowledge, an opinion formed:

Stuff the great local landlords and tarnish all people who like a pint or two with the same brush.

Be more kind
 
You see, there in lies what this last 8 months has produced in this country.

We have a certain amount of the population that have probably been comfortable throughout the period as it hasn't affected them financially or mentally, so all they can say is keep everything closed and balls to the hundreds of thousands of people who will end up without a job or even worse, a business.

I think this sums up the world currently for me. It's seen as so black and white it is painful. I find it difficult to see where the middle ground lies though too. I work in the NHS, i'm comfortable in work and have a young family so have not been impacted by hospitality closures in nearly the way I would have been 10 years ago.

I can also see the carnage that lockdown is causing on job losses and need for social support through our community outreach work and the numbers seeking support going through the roof.

To be honest, I would have stuck with the tier systems and look to push any indoor mixing of people into outdoor spaces where possible. Easier said than done, but if people could mix more under cover/ outdoors where the air is moving, it would reduce the need to mix indoors under the cover of darkness.
 
Randy, am I getting these new rules wrong, or are we simply in a position where you need to buy food to buy a drink?
It's what it sounds like to me in a tier 2 place. Bizzare I know. I'm waiting for clarification from my bosses.

The 1000 people indoors for events and performances stinks. They are only bothered about their theatre loving donors and couldn't give a **** about the working man or woman.
 
It's what it sounds like to me in a tier 2 place. Bizzare I know. I'm waiting for clarification from my bosses.

The 1000 people indoors for events and performances stinks. They are only bothered about their theatre loving donors and couldn't give a **** about the working man or woman.
Then we get the ridiculous situation where you order your burger and pint, push the burger to one side. Drink for the evening and bin the burger at the end of the night.
 
The outdoor thing really sticks in my throat - a number of local pubs have provided adequate, socially distanced seating, with outdoor heaters and open sided marquees/gazebos. My understanding of the science is that this dramatically reduces the risk associated with spreading the virus.
 
Then we get the ridiculous situation where you order your burger and pint, push the burger to one side. Drink for the evening and bin the burger at the end of the night.

I genuinely can't figure out what the government's agenda is. I mentioned the other day that we've been shut for a few weeks now, crippling restrictions before hand and the industry is still been punished for rising cases and deaths.
No wet led pub in the country is going to continue doing takeout beers if they are stuck in tier 3 when as somebody else mentioned the public will just go to the supermarket unless these pubs are are selling speciality ales. The wider public has this misconception that pubs and restaurants will be fine as the workers will all be getting 80% furlough until March but it's not as simple as that.
These businesses still have rent to pay, utility bills to pay etc, takeouts are never going to cover those overheads when the business model is built around people visiting and sitting in the premises.
I'm lucky because our place lives and dies on its food, the drink is an added bonus as you don't really make enough money off of it. Our takeouts are keeping our heads above water and our brewery have been superb, they've paused the rent increase and even cut it until February, but a LOT of other places aren't as lucky.
People are going to be shocked in January, they don't know what's coming.
 
I can honestly see the closure of the majority of wet pubs.
Simply not economically viable to attempt to open.
Once gone the chances of reopening are slim.
Unless the shower of sh@t supposedly running this country accept that these are not places of transmission then our way of life will be irreparably change.
I hate to say it but a small pressure group within the tory party are the only ones saying "show us the evidence."
That is from outside the industry.
Have we all accepted that a few academics, who have probably never been to a pub since they left uni., can decide to change our way of life.
 
I fear for my local which is a wet pub, although it does have a menu board, but it just lists "pickled eggs, nuts, crisps and there's a chippy over the road"

that said, I've driven past a couple of times in the last week or 2 and on both occasions, the owner is there doing some work inside and has bought some more outdoor heaters, so he must have some hope that his business will be able to continue in the long term, despite what may or may not happen after the 2nd. I very much doubt they'l be doing take-out booze, there's only 3 handpulls on and they are just local brewery stuff, so nothing I dont think people would go out of their way, unless it was done just to support the pub if it's open for take-out. That being the case I would cerainly support as best I can as it's an integral part of our commuity and, from an entirely selfish perspective, it's where me, my wife and a good number of pals prefer to spend our Friday evenings so I would be very sad to see it go
 
Wet pubs won't disappear from Britain. It is true many will close permanently but when things return to normality there is a gap their to be exploited. Unfortunately I fear that the chains will hoover up all the independents that couldn't afford to make it through the current crisis. That will leave us with a bunch of weatherspoons and yates' and not much else.
 
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