Gaza genocide

SuperStu said:
Interesting quotations. Who on here said those then?
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Where did I say someone on here said that? I'll wait.

But here's a selection of numpties on X replying to Starmer's condemnation.

"What action are you taking as Labour Leader?"
Is this comment for real?

"You need to call them out far stronger than this."
Is it a pi$$ing contest?

"This blood is on your hands."
So not Netenyahu or Hamas then :unsure:
 
LessoftheLip said:
"What action are you taking as Labour Leader?"
Is this comment for real?

"You need to call them out far stronger than this."
Is it a pi$$ing contest?
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Do you genuinely think that the leader of a supposedly left-leaning party shouldn't be making more noise than any random 'other' (politically) about an actual genocide and the deliberate targeting of aid workers?
 
I’ve always been a tacit supporter of Israel and admired their determination if not always their methods and various governments who clearly didn’t have any intention of finding a solution to live with Palestine. However, they've completely alienated me and I will only be won back if the next government ensure that a significant number of the current government and IDF commanders end up on war crime charges. As for the British government and Labour they are a disgrace.
 
Scrote said:
Do you genuinely think that the leader of a supposedly left-leaning party shouldn't be making more noise than any random 'other' (politically) about an actual genocide and the deliberate targeting of aid workers?
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There's something legitimately jarring about the amount of wrapping himself up in Union flags that Starmer’s done as leader, and then the party under his leadership refusing to even consider they'd stop arms sales to a country that's just killed 3 Brits.
 
BlindBoyGrunt said:
How are you managing to separate the destruction in Gaza with the man who takes the money and states that Israel have a right to do what they are doing?
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Because he can’t influence it one jot

If you, him, me or Sunak called for a ceasefire they would just crack on.
We are a small island off France

Fascinating that people care so much about the people Gaza they come on and have a go at an opposition leader.
 
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1finny said:
Because he can’t influence it one jot

If you, him, me or Sunak called for a ceasefire they would just crack on.
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Come on 1finny, there's a world of difference between people saying Starmer probably shouldn't say things like "I support Zionism unqualified", "I think Israel does have that right [to block water and electricity from Gaza]", and that the party shouldn't support selling weapons to a country that then use those weapons to carry out a genocide and kill British aid workers... and pretending they've instead somehow implied that he's personally responsible for imposing a ceasefire.
 
I agree with you on what he is saying.

This thread is about Gaza Genocide - roughly translated as the mass murder of innocent people including circa 20000 kids.
It looks as though it is now causing famine too.
It’s horrendous.

The thread isn’t about the musings of an opposition leader

I don’t know why there isn’t a sticky thread for those who desperately need to deliver abuse to him to their heart’s content.
 
You could argue that as the future PM its important to understand Starmer position on Gaza and Israel.
Perhaps but only as far as the impact at home.
The Israelis won't give a flying fk what he thinks, or any other UK politicians.
Our only impact on foreign policy these days is reduced to killing a few locals and sacrificing our young men and women while pussy licking the Americans.
 
sherlock1969 said:
The attack on the aid workers was clearly a targeted attack. They had the aid organisations logo all over their vehicle.

That organisation, and others, are now suspending aid operations in Gaza. Which was probably the Israeli plan all along.
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I agree with you - Israel know what they are doing.

Let’s just explore the ‘accident’ theory for a moment.
A government waging terror on innocent civilians ‘accidentally’ kill those delivering aid.
Even if it was a stray shell -wtf 😡
 
Millbrook said:
Many will share your sentiments but the above is incorrect.

The Gaza Ministry of Health figures do not accord with this number and even so their figures have been disputed;

“The numbers are not real. That much is obvious to anyone who understands how naturally occurring numbers work. The casualties are not overwhelmingly women and children, and the majority may be Hamas fighters,” writes Abraham Wyner, a professor of statistics and data science at the Wharton School of the University of Pennsylvania, and the report’s author.
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Even the IDF have admitted 20 civilian casualties for a low grade target is proportionate as they will not waste smart bombs on small fry so bomb the house and kill the whole family, low grade is not Hamas terrorists but people who work for the Gaza state.
 
1finny said:
I agree with you - Israel know what they are doing.

Let’s just explore the ‘accident’ theory for a moment.
A government waging terror on innocent civilians ‘accidentally’ kill those delivering aid.
Even if it was a stray shell -wtf 😡
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3 stray shells 1 and a half miles apart
 
Mustoes boots said:
Even the IDF have admitted 20 civilian casualties for a low grade target is proportionate as they will not waste smart bombs on small fry so bomb the house and kill the whole family, low grade is not Hamas terrorists but people who work for the Gaza state.
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Reference for the admission please.
No need just saw the post above this one.
 
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