MolteniArcore
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Lineker was right in what he said, it is the right wing snowflakes that don't like it and these are the ones complaining. They are also the ones who bang on about free speech. The irony.
Is not as if Tim Davie goes on air and talks about his time as a Tory councillor, but it still gets examined, and probably rightly so.Surely Gary Lineker was expressing his own views as a human being? Not as part of the bbc. If he, as other people have said, aired these views on motd then he should absolutely be ‘talked to’. But posting a view on his own personal Twitter who people can follow or unfollow whenever they like doesn’t seem an issue. This just seems an attack on free speech which is exactly what the 1930’s German government would do.
exactly that, and so it should be.Surely Gary Lineker was expressing his own views as a human being? Not as part of the bbc. If he, as other people have said, aired these views on motd then he should absolutely be ‘talked to’. But posting a view on his own personal Twitter who people can follow or unfollow whenever they like doesn’t seem an issue. This just seems an attack on free speech which is exactly what the 1930’s German government would do.
That's why I added the rider!Laura Kuenssberg would beg to differ.
I really don’t see those similarities, personally, but if that’s your view fine.
This is the 'Chamberlain position', appeasement of fascists, I can guarantee those right wingers won't play by the same rules. Well I have in my hand a piece of paper, it says F%ck the tories, Lineker was right.'m just giving my opinion of what I would do in their shoes, or what I think they should do. To me, if they want to contribute to the general perception of the BBC and help prolong its existence and role in society, they should consider the bigger picture is all I'm saying.
Why would he? Free country isn’t it?Has he been sacked yet?
I don't have a problem with what you're saying. I don't agree but don't see why you're getting attacked for it and I do see the irony about people supporting him (for his views) when at other times they are against him (re. his money).The impartiality, contractually, IS limited to those. I'm giving you my personal opinion of what I think they should do, I'm not saying it should be written into law.
I don't think Jo Whiley doing a shift at a foodbank is political tbh. Being a member of a political party is perfectly ok unless you advertise it overtly. Peter Capaldi is an actor with no special affiliation to the BBC anyway, it isn't the same as Whiley or Lineker who are long-standing weekly contributors and faces of the organisation's flagship content provisions.
"People need to realise that the Beeb is a monolithic beast of an organisation, and the impartiality clause only applies to those that are involved in small section of it" - you may be right about this but the fact is that they don't. Perception is increasingly important. You can sit the British public down and tell them why they’re wrong and why they should pay their licence fee but they won’t always agree with you, I DO believe a degree of empathy is necessary to remain impartial.
Hmm ok. Well I’m not sure it’s quite 1939 levels yet but horses for courses.f
This is the 'Chamberlain position', appeasement of fascists, I can guarantee those right wingers won't play by the same rules. Well I have in my hand a piece of paper, it says F%ck the tories, Lineker was right.
Fair enough I forgot about Dr Who . Good point.I don't have a problem with what you're saying. I don't agree but don't see why you're getting attacked for it and I do see the irony about people supporting him (for his views) when at other times they are against him (re. his money).
Capaldo is Doctor Who by the way man, that's bbc flagship stuff!
Also, you said at the end there about a degree of empathy. I think that's what Gary is showing
it's pandering to the right wingers though, that's what they want, to silence dissenting voices. Why give them what they want, because it won't stop thereFair enough I forgot about Dr Who . Good point.
Gary is showing empathy and I think his views are absolutely fair, I can just see why some may think he needs to tread carefully with where/how he airs them.
Well, ok, but the alternative is that we lose the bbc forever and there are no neutral voices.it's pandering to the right wingers though, that's what they want, to silence dissenting voices. Why give them what they want, because it won't stop there
it's pandering to the right wingers though, that's what they want, to silence dissenting voices. Why give them what they want, *because it won't stop there*
It isn't a neutral voice anymore, it's run by the right wingers, they platform the right wingers far more than lefties. They even ran news articles which demonised Corbyn.Well, ok, but the alternative is that we lose the bbc forever and there are no neutral voices.
It isn't but 1932 language is being normalised, first from outside the government in the Farages and Robinsons of this world and now from within the government itself.Hmm ok. Well I’m not sure it’s quite 1939 levels yet but horses for courses.
I don’t fully agree with this summary, but even if what you say is true, once the Tories are out on their ear they cannot control it anymore. It may need reform, but not abolition.It isn't a neutral voice anymore, it's run by the right wingers, they platform the right wingers far more than lefties. They even ran news articles which demonised Corbyn.
Because he has broken the strict impartiality rules that all BBC employees have to obey. Only a matter of time now for jug ears.Why would he? Free country isn’t it?
I'm in favour of my daughters being allowed to walk down the street without be harassed by some of these savages that we are importing into this country.Kelloe, are you in favour of the government's proposed immigration policy?
How sad you are.I'm in favour of my daughters being allowed to walk down the street without be harassed by some of these savages that we are importing into this country.