Taking the knee in this country started with BLM, and is still pushed by sky sports as being associated with BLM. Whether that is the intentional or not I don’t know. I disagree with taking the knee for the same reasons that Britt Assombalonga does, in that it is an empty gesture that has achieved nothing, and only creates more division. It is actions that are needed.
If you seek to defend an act that is pretty obviously perceived as racist by a broad spectrum of those who witnessed it, what epithet would you prefer?
Do you see the irony in telling people that they can boo but want to stop people telling them they are wrong to boo?
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Oh so the freedom to be racist is a right that you would like to fight for? Is that the rock you're gonna defend? Studies show that unadulterated freedom of speech leads to less freedom of speech and a more dangerous society. Would you like a world where for example someone can accuse you of a sex crime repeatedly and make your life hell with no repercussion and no way to stop them because its free speech? No, that would be awful, free speech has boundaries and its about doing material mental and financial harm to people. Booing people trying to fight racism falls into that category.
Nope, I said above do no harm to others. Footballers taking the knee didn't hurt a single person in that stadium, unless you count racists that want racism to continue, in which case they are the ones doing the harm. Racists doing the booing are doing harm to ethnic minorities by the continuation and normalistaion of decades long prejudices.
Do you see that irony in telling people they are wrong to stop someone telling someone they are wrong for telling someone they are wrong to boo? How long do you want to go with this?
Oh, well the fact people payed to be in the stadium gives them the right to be racist? I didn't realise it worked like that. I guess every black footballer has a clause in their contract that they can't sue for not being protected from racial abuse while doing their jobs. FFS, absolute nonsense this thread.
what actions? Maybe ban people that boo anti-racism gestures? That'd be a good start.
But some are automatically making the assumption that everybody who boo’s is racist, And that may not be the case. So it’s hard continue having a sensible debate when it’s started with such a sweeping generalisation.
its' ignorant leading to the perpetuating normalisation of racism OR it's racism. End result is the same.
They did get critiscised, not to this degree but then they didn't get anywhere near the media coverage this does. So it didn't impact them, and as we see now they never worked. We have a more racist society than we had 25 years ago, and it's becoming more acceptable to say things in public.
everyone is allowed an opinion, and I will revert to my earlier comment, do no harm. You don't have to like the players doing it, but that is their choice let them without trying to spoil something that is clearly important to them, what actual harm is their gesture doing to you or anyone else? I'll answer for you NOTHING.
No, football is a world game and that means people of all colours, religions and genders play. If you take a stance of 'we will just let society sort it out', then you end up with racism, inactivity becomes an enabler to the worst dregs of society, always has, always will. The FA, FIFA, UEFA, have all tried and nothings changed. In wider society governments have made little headway. So grass movements start to address it. That's what BLM is, that means they can be a bit clumsy and confused until they find their 'market position', they've found it let them get on with it. If you think the fact one of the founders was into Marxism, and another bought 4 houses is more important than the millions of subjugated minorities in the world that's a circle for you to square
It is such b***ks Boromart.
Did they boo it?