Gareth Southgate's strong message after some supporters booed when England players take the knee [Gazette]

S7DiscoDown said:
The same thing happened at all 3 play off finals. Sky didn't even mention it as I guess they didn't want to give it traction.

It wasn't just idiot England fans. The thing is it's not remotely been 'tested' in grounds with fans in. I have a feeling it won't last long once grounds are full.

I'm not sure what the answer is? Can you ban people for having an opinion? Let's make it clear they are not booing black players. I suggest if they don't like it then just stand quiet and don't clap.
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You can ban people for being racist
 
Colin Warnek said:
Indeed. Some would have you believe they were the second coming of Martin Luther King and Rosa Parks.
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:rolleyes:

MLK was a Marxist. If you're convinced people boo footballers kneeling down for a few seconds before matches out of their objections against 19th century economists (and if you believe that, you'll believe anything) then there's no reason for you not to think they'd do the same to MLK surely?
 
Colgates_shaving_foam said:
Absolute rubbish this by the way.

We need to drive this abhorrent element out of our grounds. My plan would be to gang up on anyone who boos taking the knee and keep giving them verbals throughout the game until they leave. Then they will either stay away or keep their racist mouths shut next time.
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Correct it’s absolute rubbish. Players take the knee for racial inequality

they don’t tie themselves to BLM. Only people who are racist(or stupid) tie them together.

players can choose to do what they want to highlight inequality, by booing you are oppressing it

if you genuinely think that BLM and taking the knee are the same then you are misinformed at best, but more likely stupid or worse, racist
 
Racist morons.

I know that a very large part of the crowd were from outside of the area, but it was still gutting to have our stadium and area tarnished on national television by association.

Sadly it's far from the first crowd to boo since fans have been allowed back, and that's with limited numbers.
 
BoroMart said:
if that opinion is racist then yes.

The often mooted argument that 'we are against politics' doesn't really wash because no one boos at the NHS being supported, or at the poppy appeal, or any of the other things that are related to bettering society. It's only racial equality gestures that seems to come in for this criticism, which can only lead to one conclusion.

What next boo Marcus Rashford for daring to make sure kids don't go hungry, because you know that's "politics" stand outside a foodbank and boo anyone donating food? It's nonsense. People used to say "everything is politics", and it's true, I think what the booers actually mean is "this is party politics" this is left vs right, and that makes this about the demonisation of anything that shows empathy as being far left. It isn't though, human decency shouldn't be related to how much you think we should get taxed, or what form of governance we have. You can be on the right but not racist, so what this appears to be is a growing far right, extremism where empathy disappears and is replaced by hatred.

Anyway, BLM, knee taking, if you don't agree with the gesture ignore it, if you boo you are a part of the racist problem, it's pretty simple.
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It’s funny you mention the poopy appeal, these people who boo’d last night for someone showing support would pull you up for not wearing a poppy

irony eh
 
SuperStu said:
:rolleyes:

MLK was a Marxist. If you're convinced people boo footballers kneeling down for a few seconds before matches out of their objections against 19th century economists (and if you believe that, you'll believe anything) then there's no reason for you not to think they'd do the same to MLK surely?
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No such thing as a Christian Marxist.
 
uncle_rico said:
I wouldn’t worry, Boro took the decision to stop taking the knee because as a club we’d rather see some real action than pointless gestures.
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Pointless gestures? We’re talking about racists more often now, if no one was taking a knee we wouldn’t be highlighting all the racists. It’s a starting point.

hopefully people who boo get banned, then that’s real action
 
BoroMart said:
well you've got two sets of victims, and therefore two sets of perpetrators.

Fact is claiming that you are booing anti-racism because you are being told what to do is a straight lie, you know it, I know it. Stop being an apologiser for racists.
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It's not a "lie" at all. It's the reason I oppose the gesture and I don't believe I am an island.

Calling people's opinions "lies" haha - so Big Brother of you.

I wouldn't deny that there may be a minority who boo because they are racially bigoted- I don't call your view a "lie" - but I don't believe that that is the reason that the majority boo.
 
Colin Warnek said:
It's not a "lie" at all. It's the reason I oppose the gesture and I don't believe I am an island.

Calling people's opinions "lies" haha - so Big Brother of you.

I wouldn't deny that there may be a minority who boo because they are racially bigoted- I don't call your view a "lie" - but I don't believe that that is the reason that the majority boo.
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Why do you oppose the gesture?
 
Colin Warnek said:
No such thing as a Christian Marxist.
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Oh wait, you're serious - GIF on Imgur
 
The crucial difference is between not agreeing with something and actively protesting (by booing) against it.

I don't agree with taking the knee but I certainly wouldn't condemn those who choose to do so.

By not agreeing with taking the knee that alone doesn't make anyone racist unless you want to include Assembalonga, Fletcher, Akpomb, Bola etc as racists.
 
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