Gareth Southgate's strong message after some supporters booed when England players take the knee [Gazette]

[MolteniArcore]

There is racism in society and we are generations away from changing that.

All most of us can do is continue to support each other regardless of race or creed.

Oh and don't vote for a racist as pm.

Not everyone is a racist in England and there are other countries that are worse but I think there is an undercurrent of racism in England that will be around for the next few generations until they die off.

Some people are adamant this is not the case but that is because they do not recognise what racism is. It's like BLM - if you don't get it or why it's needed you certainly are part of the problem.

 

[Colin Warnek]

You think everyone should support this shower of $hit ?. Maybe you should look int what BLM actually stand for - beyond their three letter acronym.

Revealed: What ‘Black Lives Matter’ really stands for

Anyone worth listening to agrees that black lives matter. But what does the organisation ‘Black Lives Matter’ stand for? Worryingly, for the 34,000 Brits who have topped up BLM UK’s coffers with over £1million in recent weeks, finding out is no easy task. Despite being inundated with donations...

www.spectator.co.uk

Not everyone booing "the knee" are as ignorant of their agenda as some of the posters on here clearly are.

Indeed. Some would have you believe they were the second coming of Martin Luther King and Rosa Parks.

 

[Johnny Vincents Motorbike]

And there you have in two sentences why fans boo.

Because the consensus says you SHOULD BE THINKING THIS and "if you don't agree with me, STFU!"

Only that not why some people boo - they 'boo' because they dont believe in or understand equality (for many varied reasons- including their own political outlooks) and want things to stay the same, or get worse.

i remember the NF spewing their hatred outside football grounds in 1975 & 76 - their bastardised sons are now saying 'keep politics out of football'.

the councils decision to provide land for The Riverside was a political decision.

The Hearts team going to war en masse was a political decision.

The forming of Woolwich Arsenal, the nations military team, was a political decision.

Bertie Mee & Wilf Mannion going to Italy to oust Mussolini - an act of raw anti fascism - was a political decision.



politics has always been in football.

 

[BoroMart]

but one if the BLM founders, a self proclaimed Marxist just resigned for buying a $3m property portfolio, clearly out of donations if she had to resign.

That's a huge and unsubstantiated assumption again. She is negative publicity for BLM, so has left, that doesn't mean she has taken money from it, not at all. Directors resign because of bad publicity all the time. If there were any truth in it, you could guarantee the IRS would destroy her.

Also, do look to Act Blue. Ask yourself why BLM donations go directly to them, then why Hundreds of millions of dollars got funnelled to the Democrat party from there.

Probably like every other corporation and charity in america, they have to pin themselves to a certain mast and donate to get change. It's the way their political system works, donations means a voice in government. It stinks but it isn't out of the ordinary. Clearly they would donate to Dems, because Republicans are traditionally conservative and thus against change.

personally I don’t lean towards the right, I just think that organisation is about money making, because it is.

It raises money, all charities do, that isn't a bad thing. Do the directors draw a salary, absolutely all charities work that way. Do they draw excessively, that's pure speculation but it helps the racists to discredit by claiming they do without evidence.

 

[Johnny Vincents Motorbike]

and these men - footballers & anti fascists.

• Reg Anderson – England international footballer 1938–39. Played for Dulwich Hamlet (1934–1938 and 1939–1940) and Cardiff City (1938–1939). A sergeant in the Royal Air Force (RAF), he died when his bomber was shot down by flak during a mine-laying operation over the Heligoland Bight on 24 February 1942 aged 25.[52]
• Matthew Armstrong – played for Darlington (1936–1939) and before enlistment for Aston Villa. Died during service as private with Royal Army Medical Corps in the Middle East on 12 July 1941 aged 22.[53]
• Claude Ashton – an England international team captain in one match, against Northern Ireland in 1925. An amateur who played in various positions for Corinthians. A squadron leader in the Auxiliary Air Force, he was killed in a mid-air collision on training flight near Caernarfon, Wales on 31 October 1942 aged 41.[54][55]
• Arthur Bacon – played for Chesterfield (1923–25 and 1932–33), Derby County (1925–27), Manchester City (1927–28), Reading (1928–32), Coventry City (1933–35) and Burton Town. A civilian during the war, reportedly a Special Constable and fireman, he was killed during an air raid in Derby on 27 July 1942 aged 37.[56][57]
• Hiley Bamsey – played for Exeter City (1935–1938). A sergeant in the Royal Electrical and Mechanical Engineers, he was killed in Iraq on 31 December 1943 aged 27.[58]
• Arthur Baxter – played for Barnsley (1938–1939). Died serving with the London Scottish of the Gordon Highlanders in the Battle of Rimini in Italy on 5 September 1944 aged 32.[59]
• Albert Bonass – played for Darlington (1932–33), York City (1933–34), Hartlepools United (1934–36), Chesterfield (1936–39) and Queen's Park Rangers (1939–45). He survived the war, in which he served as a Metropolitan Police War Reservist and a sergeant in the Royal Air Force Volunteer Reserve (RAFVR), but was killed on a training flight when his Short Stirling bomber crashed at Tockwith, Yorkshire, on 9 October 1945 aged 34.[60]
• Billy Bryan – played for Swindon Town (1936–1938) and Wrexham (1939–40). Died during the Battle of Normandy on 2 August 1944 aged 31 when serving as a private in the Dorsetshire Regiment.[61]
• George Bullock – played for Barnsley (1936–1940). Died in a road accident near Appleton, Cheshire while serving as naval airman in the Fleet Air Arm on 31 May 1943 aged 27.[62]
• Alec Campbell – played for Southampton (1919–1926), manager of Chesterfield (1927). Died of illness serving as a second lieutenant in the Royal Artillery on 16 June 1943 aged 53.[63]
• Joe Carr – played for Sheffield United (1937–1940). Killed during the Battle of Dunkirk serving with the Royal Artillery on 31 May 1940 aged 21.[64]
• Norman Catlin – played for Southampton (1935–1937). A Royal Navy seaman, he lost his life in the controversial sinking of HMS Gloucester off the coast of Crete on 22 May 1941 aged 23.[65]
• William Chalmers – played for Bournemouth & Boscombe Athletic (1932–1938). Died accidentally serving as a gunner in the Royal Artillery on 7 October 1943 aged 31.[66]
• Charlie Clark – played for Queens Park Rangers (1935–1938). Clark died of wounds during the Tunisian campaign on 1 March 1943 aged 27 when serving as lance sergeant in the Hampshire Regiment.[67]
• Albert Clarke – played for Blackburn Rovers (1938–1944). Killed in France on 16 June 1944 serving with the Devonshire Regiment.[68]
• David Clyne – played for Queen's Park (1937–1939) in the Scottish League. A flight sergeant in the RAFVR, he was killed in a training accident whilst piloting a Catalina flying boat at Vatersay, Scotland, on 12 May 1944 aged 27.[69]
• Joe Coen – played for Celtic F.C. (1931–32) and Luton Town (1934–1939). A leading aircraftsman in the RAF, he died on 15 October 1941 aged 34, in a mid-air collision on a training accident at RAF Cranwell.[70]
• Tom Cooper – England international, making 15 appearances between 1927–34. Played for Port Vale (1924–1926), Derby County (1926–1934) and Liverpool (1934–1940). Died serving the Corps of Military Police in England on 25 June 1940 aged 36 after his motorcycle struck a lorry.[71]
• Haydn Dackins – played for Swansea Town (1934–1935) and Port Vale (1935–1936). He was killed in action in Sicily on 2 August 1943 aged 31, when serving in the Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers.[72]
• Bobby Daniel – played for Arsenal but never made a first-team appearance. Served as flight sergeant in the RAFVR, disappeared in action on a bombing raid over Berlin on 24 December 1943.[73][74]
• Ernie Davies – played for Tranmere Rovers (1936–1940). Died in North Africa serving as corporal in the King's Own Royal Regiment (Lancaster) on 17 August 1942 aged 36.[75]
• Bill Dean – played for Arsenal (1940–1941). A stoker in the Royal Navy, he was killed in the sinking of his ship, HMS Naiad south of Crete on 11 March 1942.[76]
• Stanley Docking – played for Newcastle United (1934–1938). Died accidentally whilst serving as an aircraftman in the RAFVR on 27 May 1940 aged 25.[77]
• Joe Donnachie (junior) – played for Everton, Bolton Wanderers and Chester City before enlistment. Killed in aircraft accident while serving as sergeant in the RAFVR on 12 October 1944 aged 32.[78]
• Andy Ducat – England international six times between 1910 and 1920. Played for Southend United (1903–05), Arsenal (1905–12), Aston Villa (1912–21) which he captained to an FA Cup win in 1920, and Fulham (1921–24) of which he became manager in 1924–26. He served in the Surrey Home Guard during the war and died of a heart attack batting in an inter-unit cricket match against Sussex's Home Guard at Lord's Cricket Ground on 23 July 1942 aged 56.[79]
• Stan Duff – played for Tranmere Rovers (1937–1938). Died in a training accident while serving as leading aircraftman with the RAFVR on 9 September 1941 aged 22.[80]
• Tom Farrage – played for Birmingham (1937–1944). Killed serving with the Parachute Regiment during the Battle of Arnhem on 23 September 1944 aged 26.[81]
• David Fenner – played for Airdrieonians (1938–1939) in the Scottish League. A flying officer with the RAF, he was killed on 25 February 1945 aged 31 when his bomber crashed in the Netherlands.[82]
• Fred Fisher – A wartime England international in 1941. Played for Millwall (1938–1944). A sergeant air gunner with the RAFVR, he was killed when his bomber was shot down by a night fighter over France on 26 July 1944 aged 34.[83]
• Alan Fowler – played for Swindon Town. A sergeant PT Instructor with the Dorsetshire Regiment he was killed in action shortly after D-day on 10 July 1944 aged 32.[73]
• Hugh Glass – played for Arsenal (1938–1939). A Merchant Navy seaman, he was killed when his ship was torpedoed on 26 November 1942 aged 23.[84]
• Robert Gordon – played for Huddersfield Town (1937–1939). Died on 18 September 1940 of pulmonary tuberculosis while serving in the RAF.[85]
• Harry Goslin – played for Bolton Wanderers (1930–1939). Served with the Bolton Artillery, rising to Lieutenant and being awarded MC. Mortally wounded in action in Italy and died 18 December 1943 aged 34.[73]
• George Groves – played for Sheffield United (1891–1896). A civilian during the war, Groves was killed during the Blitz at Newmarket, Suffolk, on 18 February 1941, aged 72.[86]
• Sid Gueran – played for Southampton (1936–1938). He was killed serving with the Royal Engineers' 1st Parachute Squadron in action in the Battle of Arnhem on 18 September 1944 aged 27.[87]
• Ernest Hall – played for Newcastle United (1935–1936) and Brighton & Hove Albion (1937–1938). A pilot officer in the RAFVR, he was killed serving as a Vickers Wellington bomber pilot in raid on St Polten, Austria, on 7 July 1944 aged 27.[88]
• Harry Hampson – played for Southport (1936–1938) and Sheffield United (1938–1940). Died in England of septicaemia serving with the Royal Armoured Corps as a corporal on 24 June 1942 aged 24.[89]
• George Handley – played for Crystal Palace (1934–1935). Died during the invasion of Sicily while serving as lance corporal with the South Staffordshire Regiment on 9 July 1943 aged 31.[90]
• Dennis Higgins – played for Fulham. He was killed in action in North Africa on 25 September 1942 aged 26 serving with the Durham Light Infantry.[91][92]
• Alex Highet – played for Queen's Park (1938) in the Scottish League. A Royal Naval Volunteer Reserve seaman, he was killed when his ship was mined in the English Channel on 14 October 1940 aged 26.[93]
• Bill Imrie – a Scottish international in 1929, he played for Blackburn Rovers (1929–1934) and Newcastle United (1933–1938). Died of cancer whilst serving with the RAF on 26 December 1944 aged 36.[94]
• Bill Isaac – played for Brighton & Hove Albion (1939–1940). Died of meningitis on 14 April 1941 aged 22 while serving as a bombardier with the Royal Artillery.[95]
• Alex Jackson – Scotland football international 1925–30. Played for Huddersfield Town (1925–1930) and Chelsea (1930–1932). He survived the war, but was killed in a road incident in Egypt on 15 November 1946 aged 41 while serving as a major in the Royal Pioneer Corps.[96]
• Sam Jennings – played for several clubs, including Reading (1921–1924), Brighton & Hove Albion (1925–1928) and Port Vale (1929–1931), and was manager at Rochdale (1937–1938). Died while serving on 26 August 1944, at the age of 45.[97]
• Alex Johnson – played for Norwich City (1938–1939). Killed in an aviation accident in Oman on 31 July 1944 whilst serving as corporal in the RAFVR.[98]
• George Jordan – played for Cowdenbeath (1938–1940) in the Scottish League. Killed during the Western Allied invasion of France on 8 July 1944 aged 27 while serving with the Black Watch.[99]
• Alfred Keeling – played for Bradford (Park Avenue) (1937–1939). A sergeant in the RAFVR, he was shot down and killed over the Bay of Biscay on 1 December 1942 aged 21.[100]
• Leslie Lack – played for Arsenal but never made a first-team appearance. Served as sergeant in the RAF, killed by friendly fire while returning from a mission in his Spitfire on 18 March 1943 aged 22.[101][74]
• Frank McEwan – played for Airdrieonians in the Scottish League (1935–38), and Tottenham Hotspur (1938–44). A rifleman in the Rifle Brigade, he died of wounds near Donk, Belgium, on 21 September 1944 aged 29.[102]
• Les Milner – played for York City (1937–1939). Killed serving as sergeant in the Seaforth Highlanders near Bayeux on 25 June 1944 aged 26.[103]
• Fred Mills – played for Port Vale and Leeds United. Killed by an explosive device at Blerick, Holland, on 5 December 1944 aged 36, while serving with the Royal Artillery.[104]
• Peter Monaghan – played for Bournemouth & Boscombe Athletic (1937–1940). Killed in the Netherlands on 21 January 1945 aged 27, whilst serving as a private with the Highland Light Infantry.[105]
• Jimmy Morgan – played for Hamilton Academical (1932–1941) in the Scottish League. Killed in a plane crash, while serving as flight lieutenant in the RAFVR, in the North Atlantic Ocean off Trevose Head, Cornwall, on 31 July 1944 aged 32.[106]
• David Murphy – played for Middlesbrough (1937–1939). Killed in Italy on 19 September 1944 aged 27 while serving as a gunner in the Royal Artillery.[107]
• Jim Olney – played for Birmingham (1936–1938) and Swindon Town (1938–44). Killed in Belgium on 14 September 1944 aged 30 while serving as lance sergeant in the Coldstream Guards.[108]
• William Parr – played for Arsenal (1940). Died in an aircraft crash near RAF St Mawgan training as a sergeant with the RAFVR on 8 March 1942 aged 26.[109]
• Alfred Penlington – played for Everton (1940–1941). A sergeant in the RAFVR, he was lost when his Vickers Wellington was shot down over the Mediterranean Sea on 18 April 1943 aged 23.[110]
• Colin Perry – played for Nottingham Forest (1939–1940). Died at Tobruk on 28 November 1942 aged 26 when serving with Royal Army Service Corps.[111]
• Albert Potter – played for Exeter City (1922–27), Wigan Borough (1927–29) and Colwyn Bay United (1929–30). A civilian during the war, served as an Air Raid Warden when killed in the Exeter Blitz on 4 May 1942 aged 44.[112][113]
• Albert Powell – played for Swindon Town (1928–1929). Died on active service as gunner with the Royal Artillery on 23 October 1940 aged 32.[114]
• Sidney Pugh – played for Arsenal (1938–1944). Killed in a flying accident training as flying officer in the RAF at Seighford, Staffordshire, on 15 April 1944 aged 24.[115][116]
• Henry Race – played for Nottingham Forest (1933–1937). Killed at El Alamein in North Africa as a corporal with the Queen's Own Cameron Highlanders on 24 October 1942 aged 36.[117]
• Hubert Redwood – played for Manchester United (1933–1940). Died on 28 October 1943 of tuberculosis, aged 30, while serving as corporal with the South Lancashire Regiment.[118]
• Frederick Riley – appeared in the 1936 Summer Olympics for Great Britain. Amateur who played for Casuals. Shot down and killed serving as flight lieutenant in the RAF over Desvres, France, on 7 December 1942 aged 30.[119]
• Grenville Roberts – played for Nottingham Forest (1937–1939). Died of wounds serving with the West Yorkshire Regiment at Dunkirk on 3 June 1940 aged 20.[120]
• Herbie Roberts – onetime England international against Wales in 1931. Played for Arsenal (1926–1937). He died of erysipelas on 17 June 1944 aged 39, while on active duty as lieutenant with the Royal Fusiliers.[121]
• Eric Robinson – played for York City (1940–1941) and Wolverhampton Wanderers (1941–1942). Drowned during a training exercise on the River Derwent, Yorkshire while serving with the East Lancashire Regiment on 20 August 1942 aged 23.[122]
• Tom Robson – played for Everton (1929–1930) and Northampton Town (1934–1937). Died of a heart condition serving as a leading aircraftman in the RAFVR on 10 April 1942 aged 34.[123]
• Joe Rooney – played for Wolverhampton Wanderers (1938–39). Served as private in the Gloucestershire Regiment, he was killed during the Belfast Blitz on 5 May 1941 aged 24.[124]
• Henry Salmon – played for Stoke City (1932–33), Millwall (1933–34), Southport (1936–37) and before enlistment for Shrewsbury Town. Killed during the Battle for Caen serving as sergeant in the Royal Warwickshire Regiment on 30 July 1944 aged 34.[125]
• George Salvidge – played for Hull City (1938–1940). A lance-corporal in the York and Lancaster Regiment, Salvidge was killed in action near Tobruk on 23 November 1941 aged 21.[126]
• Percy Saunders – played for Sunderland (1937–1939) and Brentford (1939). A sergeant in the Royal Army Ordnance Corps, he was killed when his ship was torpedoed in the Indian Ocean on 2/3 March 1942 aged 25.[127][128]
• George Scott – played for Aberdeen in the Scottish League. A sergeant and air gunner in the RAF, he was killed in an air accident when his plane crashed into Dornoch Firth on 26 July 1942 aged 27.[129]
• Wilf Shaw – played for Doncaster Rovers (1930–1944). Killed in Operation Veritable on 20 February 1945 aged 32 when serving with the Argyll and Sutherland Highlanders.[130]
• Ralph Shields – played for Huddersfield Town (1914–1920). A member of the Second Australian Imperial Force as private in the Australian Army Service Corps, Shields was taken prisoner by the Japanese and died at the Sandakan POW camp on 21 November 1944 aged 52.[131]
• Walter Sidebottom – played for Bolton Wanderers (1939–1941). Killed serving as an able seaman on board HMS Charybdis when the ship was sunk off France on 23 October 1943 aged 22.[132]
• Charlie Sillett – played for Southampton (1931–1938). He was killed in a U-boat attack off Lizard Point while on an allied convoy while serving with the Royal Navy on 27 February 1945 aged 38.[133]
• Allan Sliman – played for Bristol City (1932–1938). A RAF flight engineer, he died at Ely, Cambridgeshire of wounds received on air bomber operations on 14 April 1945 aged 39.[134]
• Walter Spratt – played for Brentford (1911–1921). A civilian during the war, he was killed by a V-2 flying bomb in Southwark, London, on 22 January 1945 aged 54.[135]
• Eric Stephenson – England international player in 1938. Played for Leeds United (1935–1941). Killed in British Burma on 8 September 1944 aged 29 as a Major in the British Indian Army's 2nd Gurkha Rifles.[136]
• Benny Thomson – played for Kilmarnock (1934–1939) in the Scottish League. A Merchant Navy seaman, he was killed when his ship was sunk by German aircraft in the North Atlantic on 12 November 1940 aged 27.[137]
• John Thomson – played for Hamilton Academical (1932–1941) in the Scottish League. Died in Normandy serving as a private in the Seaforth Highlanders on 30 July 1944 aged 28.[138]
• Jimmy Tompkins – played for Fulham (1934–1939). A Major in the Royal Fusiliers, he was killed during Normandy campaign on 10 July 1944 aged 30 when attached to Hampshire Regiment.[139]
• Sandy Torrance – played for Bristol City (1921–28) and Bath City. A civilian in the war, he died from air raid injuries in Bedminster, Bristol on 14 April 1941 aged 39.[140]
• Ernie Tuckett – played for Arsenal (1932–1937) and Fulham (1938-45). Killed in an aircraft accident serving as corporal in the RAF on 27 May 1945 aged 31.[141][142]
• Edwin Watson – played for Huddersfield Town (1937–1938). A flight sergeant in the RAF, he was killed when his Short Sunderland flying boat was shot down during an anti-submarine sweep in the Bay of Biscay on 12 June 1944 aged 30.[143]
• David Willacy – played for Preston North End (1938–1939). Killed in a training accident serving as sergeant with the RAFVR on 1 September 1941 aged 25.[144]
• Bob Wrigglesworth – played for Chesterfield Amateurs (1935). A flight sergeant with the RAFVR, he died of hypothermia after his bomber was shot down over the Aegean Sea on 23 January 1943 aged 24

 

[BoroMart]

You think everyone should support this shower of $hit ?. Maybe you should look int what BLM actually stand for - beyond their three letter acronym.

Revealed: What ‘Black Lives Matter’ really stands for

Anyone worth listening to agrees that black lives matter. But what does the organisation ‘Black Lives Matter’ stand for? Worryingly, for the 34,000 Brits who have topped up BLM UK’s coffers with over £1million in recent weeks, finding out is no easy task. Despite being inundated with donations...

www.spectator.co.uk

Not everyone booing "the knee" are as ignorant of their agenda as some of the posters on here clearly are.

I have it's on their website, what do you find offensive?

https://blacklivesmatter.com/about/

 

[BoroMart]

Freedom of thought shouldn't be a red herring, anywhere, any time. Not in this society at least. Rape is an act, not a thought! What kind of crass analogy is that?

It's a red herring in this debate. They didn't boo because they felt their freedom of thought is oppressed, they booed because they don't want anti-racism to succeed.

Rape is an act, booing is an act. It's crass to undermine the impact that racism has on ethnic minorities

 

[Laughing]

Trevor Noah addressed this in a question on the tonight show when asked about the biggest difference between South Africa and America. He answered that in SA people have open and honest discussions about racism without shouting each other down. In America they don't. Its largely the same here.

We all need to understand why some people are racist, not academically but why people feel that way.

Address their fears and not resort to name calling when someone offers a different opinion.

Be open and honest. It's how SA moved away from aphartied. Trevor Noah wasnt allowed to live with his dad as he was white. Now he makes jokes about what it was like being brought up in a country where he was outcast for being mixed race.

 

[indeedido]

freedom of thought really is a red herring in why they were booing. I suppose rapists just rape as some kind of protest against sexual freedom?!

That is a really poor analogy.

 

[Wiseman_Vaughn]

Didn't they remove their manifesto from the website last year?

 

[Colgates_shaving_foam]

Because people don’t support BLM and what they stand for, which in this country is what ‘taking the knee’ is associated with. Whether those booing are racist or not is a different matter, and clearly those that are racist have no place at a sporting event, or in society as a whole. Politics has been allowed into sport, and don’t think it’s right for the England football manager to be telling supporters what their opinions should be.

Absolute rubbish this by the way.

We need to drive this abhorrent element out of our grounds. My plan would be to gang up on anyone who boos taking the knee and keep giving them verbals throughout the game until they leave. Then they will either stay away or keep their racist mouths shut next time.

 

[BoroMart]

Maybe so. And maybe that's why they'd prefer divisive gesture politics imported from America.

the divide is are you racist or aren't you? So I guess it is.

Not sure that because it is imported from america is why they are booing, I'm pretty sure every person that boos will own some nike and have watched Netflix at some point while eating a McDonalds. Most of them probably quite like america and american culture, particularly the semi-apartheid nature of the place.

 

[Wiseman_Vaughn]

Absolute rubbish this by the way.

We need to drive this abhorrent element out of our grounds. My plan would be to gang up on anyone who boos taking the knee and keep giving them verbals throughout the game until they leave. Then they will either stay away or keep their racist mouths shut next time.

is that a serious post?

 

[Colin Warnek]

is that a serious post?

Did you think BLM supporters were tolerant people?

 

[Colin Warnek]

That is a really poor analogy.

Stinking really.

 

[Colin Warnek]

Rape is an act, booing is an act.

Yup. That's about where the false equivalence should stop.

 

[Colgates_shaving_foam]

is that a serious post?

Absolutely, we need to take action, no place in football or society for racism

 

[BoroMart]

Didn't they remove their manifesto from the website last year?

well if there is a more contentious one, I'm sure it'll be on an internet archive, happy for you to find it and share.

 

[BoroMart]

Yup. That's about where the false equivalence should stop.

well you've got two sets of victims, and therefore two sets of perpetrators.

Fact is claiming that you are booing anti-racism because you are being told what to do is a straight lie, you know it, I know it. Stop being an apologiser for racists.

 

[jam69]

The booing was an embarrassment to our area. Gareth's a very good communicator and an intelligent man, so he was careful not to apportion blame but it was bloody awful to hear. The people booing may have been from out of our area but we have plenty of bigots and idiots among the Boro faithful who would join in heartily - you don't need to look far to see them. Such people really need to shape up or be identified and shipped out.

I think the vast majority of fans at the game were from outside the area due to the ticketing regulations. As we know there's a good chunk of right wing knuckle draggers follow England, so I wouldn't lumber the blame on teessiders