Fuel shortage

newusername said:
So until we are death marched into forced labour camps, given starvation rations, suffering from cholera, dysentery & dehydration and face the death penalty for not working ourselves to death fast enough; when asked how we are coping with empty shops, fuel shortages, cold & dark houses, we have to say "..can't complain..".

Have I got that right?
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No ,I've explained my post .
 
Laughing said:
Our local BP depot has 50 million litres of diesel in one tank alone. It has 5 diesel tanks and 8 petrol tanks. That's 100's of millions of litres of fuel. Our local station has a delivery of 19 thousand litres of petrol on Friday. By Saturday at 2pm they had no fuel. There isn't a shortage of petrol there is loads of idiots over buying.

A family friend is a tanker driver which is where I got the above information.

Some folks just want to complain.
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Well there wasn't a fuel shortage until people started to panic buy the stuff, but garages are now running out and closing forecourts. The garages will be restocked easily I know but in the immediate short term essential workers may be struggling as they can't get the fuel they need. As for a lack of tanker drivers its only really BP that has a problem. All other firms have it seems enough tanker drivers to cope.
 
Ex pfc wintergreen said:
When the furnace was shut by Chorus Government intervention was not allowed ( Vera Baird lost her seat as a consequence) because of EU regulations,the EU would only intervene if those laws were broken.
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She lost her seat because the Government could have intervened but didn't. Aĺl you had to say was that it was an industry of National importance and you could bail it out. At least they didn't finish it off they kepr the furnace lit but it wasn't really enough
 
Spraggons Den said:
Well there wasn't a fuel shortage until people started to panic buy the stuff, but garages are now running out and closing forecourts. The garages will be restocked easily I know but in the immediate short term essential workers may be struggling as they can't get the fuel they need. As for a lack of tanker drivers its only really BP that has a problem. All other firms have it seems enough tanker drivers to cope.
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My friend who works for BP as a driver tells me that whilst they are short of drivers the remaining workers are, by and large, filling the gaps.

Its over buying not shortages.
 
I have to say I filled my tank up to the brim with £85 of diesel yesterday purely to save myself and the Mrs from queuing during the week.
 
bear66 said:
Why were 100 BP and also Tesco Esso petrol stations out of fuel before any media coverage?
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BP alone have over 1200 stations Tesco have 600 filling stations. Its less than 2% of British filing stations were out of fuel before the panic buying.

In any given week its not uncommon for some petrol stations to have no fuel. How many times have you gone to fill up bear and see a pump out of order?

Let's have some perspective.
 
Laughing said:
BP alone have over 1200 stations Tesco have 600 filling stations. Its less than 2% of British filing stations were out of fuel before the panic buying.

In any given week its not uncommon for some petrol stations to have no fuel. How many times have you gone to fill up bear and see a pump out of order?

Let's have some perspective.
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Sometimes, possibly once a year, a pump but not a station. This clearly was a problem that you can't hide from the media, although, like sugar in the 70s and toilet rolls throughout history, the public go stupid.
 
bear66 said:
Sometimes, possibly once a year, a pump but not a station. This clearly was a problem that you can't hide from the media, although, like sugar in the 70s and toilet rolls throughout history, the public go stupid.
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Indeed they do. Without the ridiculous panic buying there was enough fuel to go round, just maybe not in your local filling station.

I have to get 99 ron and its fairly common for stations not to have any.
 
Laughing said:
Indeed they do. Without the ridiculous panic buying there was enough fuel to go round, just maybe not in your local filling station.

I have to get 99 ron and its fairly common for stations not to have any.
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It does show how finely balanced our economy is. Our power supply generation/network is more of a worry as no wind is no power and a transformer fire takes months to fix. France is our lifeline for electricity and although only 5% of our supply was effected it had a huge effect on demand for natural gas, which happened to also be partially restricted at the same time.

Wave / hydro power is the only consistent source of energy 24/7 on the planet, but we seem to be going down the nuclear route 10 years too late.
 
bear66 said:
It does show how finely balanced our economy is. Our power supply generation/network is more of a worry as no wind is no power and a transformer fire takes months to fix. France is our lifeline for electricity and although only 5% of our supply was effected it had a huge effect on demand for natural gas, which happened to also be partially restricted at the same time.

Wave / hydro power is the only consistent source of energy 24/7 on the planet, but we seem to be going down the nuclear route 10 years too late.
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You are absolutely right bear our economy is fragile as is every country.

The way brexit has been managed has laid bare those fragilities, unfortunately and it should be the end of the tories. We can hope.
 
Laughing said:
My friend who works for BP as a driver tells me that whilst they are short of drivers the remaining workers are, by and large, filling the gaps.

Its over buying not shortages.
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The fuel crisis is, essentially, self-limiting. There has been a surge in demand as people attempt to 'stock up' ahead of anticipated shortages, but motorists' storage capacity is limited to the car's fuel tank plus the odd jerrycan. Once drivers have stocked up, demand should fall back to a topping-up level, queues will diminish, panic will recede and we'll return to normal, albeit a new normal with a bit more supply-chain uncertainty. I'm more concerned about the broader energy market in the medium term.
 
JackG said:
The fuel crisis is, essentially, self-limiting. There has been a surge in demand as people attempt to 'stock up' ahead of anticipated shortages, but motorists' storage capacity is limited to the car's fuel tank plus the odd jerrycan. Once drivers have stocked up, demand should fall back to a topping-up level, queues will diminish, panic will recede and we'll return to normal, albeit a new normal with a bit more supply-chain uncertainty. I'm more concerned about the broader energy market in the medium term.
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I hope mate I’m back at work Thursday and I’m getting low/😀
 
JackG said:
The fuel crisis is, essentially, self-limiting. There has been a surge in demand as people attempt to 'stock up' ahead of anticipated shortages, but motorists' storage capacity is limited to the car's fuel tank plus the odd jerrycan. Once drivers have stocked up, demand should fall back to a topping-up level, queues will diminish, panic will recede and we'll return to normal, albeit a new normal with a bit more supply-chain uncertainty. I'm more concerned about the broader energy market in the medium term.
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There is lots of reasons to be concerned and energy is one of those. If you are living close to the breadline its going to push people into poverty. Arguing with a bloke in the pub yesterday who refused to believe people go hungry in the uk so I googled it and in 2016 over 6o people starved to death in the uk and malnutrition contributed to another 300 deaths. That is an appalling indictment on us as a nation.
 
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