Expectations for this season

Borothruandthru said:
Trouble is on the evidence so far some of the new players aren't good enough.
Smith too slow.
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Reggie Cannon is quick
Borothruandthru said:
Rodgers not good enough.
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Alex Pritchard is experienced
Borothruandthru said:
Silvera looks promising but maybe he's league one at best.
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Chris Willock is going into his final year
Borothruandthru said:
Keeper maybe OK but not got steffans presence
On top of that
Fry looks overrated, slow and lacks aggression.
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RVDB snapping at his jerks might mix it up a bit
Borothruandthru said:
Howson now too old.
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Issac Hayden isn’t.. and neither is Lewis O’Brien
Borothruandthru said:
Mcgree is a player when you're doing well, but gives the ball away too easily when up against it. A luxury player .
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Might not be a coincidence..
Borothruandthru said:
I think we're in a relegation battle for sure.
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Let’s just wait shall we..
 
We’re trying to integrate 5 new players on the fly so what can we expect with half the team still trying to adjust. No doubt it’ll get better but of course we need a win next week.
 
Same old ***** every season “ let’s rebuild play good football and go again etc” a “ progression season” let’s look at the facts here we can’t afford to just **** around and try and “ build “ for promotion, we should have done everything in our power to go for it this season
 
We will have a budget that's bigger than the magority of sides in this division. By rights we should be top 6
 
Colin Warnek said:
For me they were set high by Chuba’s streak and the loans of last season , as well as the league being unexpectedly poor for Luton to go up.
And unfortunately Carrick will be on a hiding to nothing for it. A victim of his own success.

Top 2 this season was never on the cards for me with Leicester Saints and the dirties coming down. Even top 6 for that matter.

Let’s focus on developing these young players and giving them time.

I never said this this time last year because it was plain to see Wilder didn’t want to be here. Carrick clearly does and has more affinity for the club.

I’m happy to give Carrick his first full season after the potential he has shown - and accept the ups and downs, as long as we stay in this league.

And lastly we might as well get Coburn in the team rather than loaning him to a team above us, unless we bring in a top marksman. Develop our own talent.
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I genuinely always thought this season could be comparatively deflating when looking at last season.

Let’s be honest, we struck gold with Carrick and the momentum he brought. We also struck gold with our loanees and they helped bring everyone along, along with the raw talent possessed by debutants like Hackney, we had something that was fleeting but magical, and genuinely if we’d have won that West Brom game last season, I think it would be a different story entirely.

CEOs at sustainable EFL sides (those who operate within their means) reckon that out of every five seasons, the first year and the last year are your best shots at obtaining promotion. This means there’s a three year rebuilding process inbetween. I anticipated that this would be the first year of that - replace loanees with more permanent signings, sign younger players who will develop over that period, maximise profit for over 25s with contracts running out, and generally sort of tread water for much of the season before really hitting a rich vein of form.

I don’t see this start as nightmarish. It isn’t ideal, signings haven’t yet gelled, but I always think your season starts properly on September 1st. Your squad is set and it can settle. If we’re still here by November, then you reevaluate the position then, but I see no need to be recklessly kneejerk and go for the “gaffer out”, “Bausor out”, “Scott out”, “Gibson out” fickle jibes we seem to get when we hit patchy form. Stick with the process and reap the rewards.
 
Boro4life said:
We will be one biggest spenders this summer not many clubs spend 5 million on a striker for example. Sky said the other week Coventry were signing players for over a million quid for the first times
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Well this is a myth to be fair. Coventry regularly splashed the cash in the late 90s and it’s why they were lumbered with an ageing overpaid squad when they were relegated. They’ve also just been taken over by an local businessman, Doug King, who is part of a consortium worth something to the sum of several billion pounds.
 
adammarc_98 said:
I genuinely always thought this season could be comparatively deflating when looking at last season.

Let’s be honest, we struck gold with Carrick and the momentum he brought. We also struck gold with our loanees and they helped bring everyone along, along with the raw talent possessed by debutants like Hackney, we had something that was fleeting but magical, and genuinely if we’d have won that West Brom game last season, I think it would be a different story entirely.

CEOs at sustainable EFL sides (those who operate within their means) reckon that out of every five seasons, the first year and the last year are your best shots at obtaining promotion. This means there’s a three year rebuilding process inbetween. I anticipated that this would be the first year of that - replace loanees with more permanent signings, sign younger players who will develop over that period, maximise profit for over 25s with contracts running out, and generally sort of tread water for much of the season before really hitting a rich vein of form.

I don’t see this start as nightmarish. It isn’t ideal, signings haven’t yet gelled, but I always think your season starts properly on September 1st. Your squad is set and it can settle. If we’re still here by November, then you reevaluate the position then, but I see no need to be recklessly kneejerk and go for the “gaffer out”, “Bausor out”, “Scott out”, “Gibson out” fickle jibes we seem to get when we hit patchy form. Stick with the process and reap the rewards.
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I think there's sense in this point.

Our reality is the odd 1 or 2 serious attempts at promotion intermingled with seasons developing.

The issue I have is it would be typical of us to spout this developing young players, clever recruitment mantra, only to then uproot the management staff a few months into the season and undo all of their work.

I understand (or perhaps, can't understand) what a tough job Gibson has, and how it must be difficult to stick to principles if/when it looks like your team might get relegated- so it's probably easier said than done, but I'd wholeheartedly support a '5 year plan', and see promising young signings develop under a promising young manager.

I don't have any faith in the people that run the club to stick to this plan and worry that in x months time we're gonna replace Carrick with the equivalent of a 'big sam' type, then back to the drawing board the following season/s

I'd like Gibson to come out and talk about a sustainable plan. I could see how it would be foolish to publicly 100% back a manager regardless of upcoming results, but if he could at least publicly commit to the current direction the club is going in, and avoid major changes to our intended playing style or recruitment policy, I'd be happy.
 
parmoboy said:
It's a tricky one at the moment. I can accept us being midtable this season but if we're still in the bottom 3 after 10 games I think panic will set in.

I'd like to see Carrick get until the midway point of the season at least but it's vital that we get that first win asap.
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Panic has already set in. People have sh*t their pants 4 games into a season. Again.
 
Bernieslavenschin said:
I think there's sense in this point.

Our reality is the odd 1 or 2 serious attempts at promotion intermingled with seasons developing.
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This a flawed approach every new season the squad gets weaker and weaker in parallel with the clubs finances and our chance of promotion. We become more reliant on loans to bring quality because our own quality has been sold off.
 
Glover_elbow said:
This a flawed approach every new season the squad gets weaker and weaker in parallel with the clubs finances and our chance of promotion. We become more reliant on loans to bring quality because our own quality has been sold off.
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I don't think it's a matter we have much say in tbh, like I'm not saying this is the ideal approach to get promoted, I'm just saying I think it's our reality (and almost every other club's reality)

We don't have access to a big pot of money for continued investment and we're constrained by FFP, so we can't invest year on year to the levels we'd need to to 'guarantee' promotion.
 
Our budget nowadays will be mid table Championship - we know for definite there are 5 Clubs with massive parachute payments that means they have budgets 2.5 times higher than ours. We also maintain a large academy and expensive training ground.
 
If we outperform our relative wage spend ill be happy. Does anyone know where we rank in terms of average/total wage spend?
 
Well my expectations have been met so far. A team stripped off most of its better players now struggling to string two passes together and leaking goals like the Titanic.
 
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