England Penalty

On The Bob said:
These types of decisions never get given generally. It’s been a source of annoyance of mine and a few of my mates for years.

Anywhere else on the pitch, it’s a late tackle and usually a guaranteed yellow. Because it’s in the box it’s like the defender is immune from punishment. The “balls gone” argument is also rubbish. Nowhere across the entire pitch do people say it, only in the penalty area.

You can still try to block the ball without fouling a player after the ball has been struck.

As soon as I seen it tonight, I said it should be a penalty but they never get given. Can’t believe it got awarded but I was glad it did.
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It was awarded because of VAR. Once the ref has seen it he can't deny it.
 
Fat_Dragon said:
It’s only a penalty if you illegally prevent a player from scoring. Kane had already got his shot off before contact was made so no pen. Plus slow motion shows Kane kicked defender.

If Kane’s shot had gone in would you have disallowed it?
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Eh? Did you start watching football last week, did someone buy you a Shoot annual for your birthday? “It’s only a penalty if you illegally prevent a player from scoring”, 🙄 jaysus wept.
 
ThePrisoner said:
Kane got his shot away and followed through onto the defender's attempted block. The defender didn't go studs in on Kane.
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The defender wasn't static though. He was trying to play the ball down. I'd accept the decision either way but the fact his foot was moving down didn't help the slow motion look.
 
TeaCider said:
That's not true in the slightest

"A direct free kick is awarded if a player commits any of the following offences against an opponent in a manner considered by the referee to be careless, reckless or using excessive force:
  • charges
  • jumps at
  • kicks or attempts to kick
  • pushes
  • strikes or attempts to strike (including head-butt)
  • tackles or challenges
  • trips or attempts to trip
If an offence involves contact it is penalised by a direct free kick or penalty kick.
  • Careless is when a player shows a lack of attention or consideration when making a challenge or acts without precaution. No disciplinary sanction is needed
  • Reckless is when a player acts with disregard to the danger to, or consequences for, an opponent and must be cautioned
  • Using excessive force is when a player exceeds the necessary use of force and endangers the safety of an opponent and must be sent off"
There's absolutely zero mention of preventing a player from scoring in the laws.
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to all of the above offences.
Not a pen.
 
RedAsABeetroot said:
The defender wasn't static though. He was trying to play the ball down. I'd accept the decision either way but the fact his foot was moving down didn't help the slow motion look.
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I agree that it often doesn’t get given in the penalty area in England. But in essence, both players challenged for the ball honestly, Kane got there first and played it, the defender got their second and made contact with him. Obviously, the defender made contact with him while he was still in motion having played the ball. That’s what always happens in a late tackle. Everywhere else on the pitch, that’s still a foul. Even in the box in cases where the attacker hasn’t got a shot away, that’s a foul. I agree it’s not always given when the attacker has got a shot away. But it should be.
 
Worrying so many people think this is a penalty. Would've been absolutely fuming if that was given against us and can accept it definitely wasn't a pen. If the ref had given it in real time I could accept it not being overturned, but for VAR to give that is an absolute joke.
 
It's a penalty under the letter of the law but I don't agree with it. Just like I don't agree with similar things happening outside the box and awarding a free kick.
 
That would never be given as a penalty in England, but would always be given in all other European leagues and European competitions.
You see it all the time in Champions League and UEFA Cup when a player raises his foot to block a shot but the forwards follow through catches the foot trying to block shot.
Penalty all day long as it was in a European competition.
But never a penalty in Prem.
 
It's a penalty by the letter of the law.

Once I saw the first replay, I said I would be astounded if we didn't get a penalty. It's always been the case that any high foot with studs showing has been a foul in European competitions. I remember Nani getting sent off for Man Utd when he tried to control a ball but his foot was high and made contact with the head of another player. I hated that precedent for years but eventually accepted that you can't show studs and get away with it.
 
I honestly thought at real time it was a slightly naughty challenge on behalf of the defender, I’m not sure he really attempted to block the ball but just put his leg out there vaguely as he was nowhere near in time to effect a block (similar to what wingers / forwards do to fullbacks clearing down the line if you like), but having said that I would’ve been upset had it been given against us so can see it as harsh. I know that seems slightly oxymoronic but I guess I’m trying to say I can see it either way. It’s one of them interpretation decisions.
 
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