allied_assault
Well-known member
He is no Giles
He's on loan to HullGiles has been a bench warmer in the PL for most of the season.
Giles is by far the better player. I’m not convinced any of the current LBs on our books are the answer next season.
I know.He's on loan to Hull
Give over, Engel is a poor player and my brain - like most folk on here - works just fine.Remember that goal saving tackle last week that confirmed Rav to be our greatest player since Mannion?
Well Engel did one of those yesterday. Still, if your brain isn't capable of operating at a level higher than 1-bit, then sure, he's the worst player ever.
Giles has one assist in 810 minutes of championship games. 80.4% passing, with 1.3 key passes per game. Averages 1 tackle1.1 interceptions, 2.5 clearances and no blocks.Giles has been a bench warmer in the PL for most of the season.
Giles is by far the better player. I’m not convinced any of the current LBs on our books are the answer next season.
Yes, Engel is very much a confidence player. The thing that I don’t understand is; 5-3-2 formation is all about the wing backs and, yes, first half we used jones a lot but when it wasn’t on what we didn’t do was move the ball across the 3 centre backs to Engel as quickly as possible to stretch Blackburn….the wing backs are key and we only used jonesy, nowhere near enough down the left flank….to keep them guessing and stretchedHave we ever had a player who tries to get rid of the ball as soon as they get it as Engel?
Some of his first time passes decisions yesterday were beyond mental.
Has some good attributes but he is one of the most frustrating players I have ever watched for Boro.
Think he has to be back up next season.
In my opinion Giles is a better player. He was a very important cog last season. We were all gutted when we didn’t get him back which tells its own story. He also did the business for a not so great Cardiff team. In the right setup he is a superb left back at this level. Not sure he’s PL quality.Giles has one assist in 810 minutes of championship games. 80.4% passing, with 1.3 key passes per game. Averages 1 tackle1.1 interceptions, 2.5 clearances and no blocks.
Engel has 3 assists and 2 goals in 2200 mins. 78.9% passing, with 0.8 key passes. Averaging 2 tackles, 1.5 interceptions, 1.7 clearances and 0.2 blocks.
People are remembering Giles with Akpom etc. there’s very little evidence to suggest that Giles is a far better player
We kept looking to switch it across to Jones during the 1st half but they read it every time.Yes, Engel is very much a confidence player. The thing that I don’t understand is; 5-3-2 formation is all about the wing backs and, yes, first half we used jones a lot but when it wasn’t on what we didn’t do was move the ball across the 3 centre backs to Engel as quickly as possible to stretch Blackburn….the wing backs are key and we only used jonesy, nowhere near enough down the left flank….to keep them guessing and stretched
None of that I disagree with however, what you are discounting here is that he made the difference against Norwich and had the courage to get up there and scored thus changing the course of the game towards Boro.He is however very inconsistent. Maybe he improves but right now he can be a liability at times.
Exactly this. You would expect improvement over the first season or two for a young player moving to a different country with different team mates and playing at a higher level.None of that I disagree with however, what you are discounting here is that he made the difference against Norwich and had the courage to get up there and scored thus changing the course of the game towards Boro.
Credit goes to the lad and he has been influential in assists previously too so whilst he can be frustrating to watch him on occasion he also has had some quality moments. For a lad coming to a new country and stepping up a level to boot, we ought to be able to see those excellent moments for us and throw our support at him because he has the potential to be very good.
IMHO
There is less support on the left when you compare it to the right, particularly when Jones plays.i think when we play wingbacks his natural passing lane to the flanks is none existent
Of course Saturday was not down to Engel, or Silvera, or any single player.Engel is ok in my opinion. A decent champo player. We were pretty dire as soon as Forss went off, but still would have won if Silvera hadn't done an airshot a 10yr old would be embarassed about. I don't think Saturday was down to Engel.