Do You Know Your Covid?

Liamo

Well-known member
#61
Potentially the corona virus could be up there with the common cold in terms of finding a cure .
I rather doubt it. At no time have we ever had around 200 separate teams worldwide, all working more or less flat out on developing a vaccine for the common cold. Nor have we ever had the billions of dollars being spent on a cold virus, that are currently in play for SARS-CoV-2.

There's also a major difference in the nature of the pathogens in question. SARS-CoV-2, despite some variability, still presents basically a single target for the vaccinologists to aim at. According to the information on the US National Insitutes of Health website, "More than 200 different viruses are known to cause the symptoms of the common cold," (only two of which are coronaviruses). To "cure" the common cold by means of vaccinations could need many, many different vaccines - possibly hundreds of them.

NIH research - understanding the common cold.

You really can't make a comparison between finding a cure for the common cold and finding a cure for SARS-CoV-2.
 

1finny

Well-known member
#62
Just another bit for perspective.
Talking to some medical friends yesterday
Covid hospital cases as of Friday (just random places they happen to know about)
Leeds (deemed high risk). 5
Wakefield. 7
Lincolnshire. 0

Of course, with all the so called cases there has to be a worry that this will grow significantly.
But, equally, it may not.
It’s twitchy bum time
 
#63
Just another bit for perspective.
Talking to some medical friends yesterday
Covid hospital cases as of Friday (just random places they happen to know about)
Leeds (deemed high risk). 5
Wakefield. 7
Lincolnshire. 0

Of course, with all the so called cases there has to be a worry that this will grow significantly.
But, equally, it may not.
It’s twitchy bum time
The hospitalisation should track maybe 2-3 weeks after the case rise. Let's see what happens. I just want everyone to abide by the rules to get us back to normal quicker. Too many halfwits seem to know best.
 

bear66

Well-known member
#64
The hospitalisation should track maybe 2-3 weeks after the case rise. Let's see what happens. I just want everyone to abide by the rules to get us back to normal quicker. Too many halfwits seem to know best.
The latest hospital admissions in UK is the highest since 7 July and over five times higher than the low point mid-August.
 
#66
I liked this video as a comparison between now and back in March:


I am very much on the side of we need to be careful, take precautions, this isn't over... however it is worth pointing out the disingenuous way the current number of cases are being reported - whether or not this is deliberate to generate clicks, or just because we are uninformed in general, I'm not sure.

Things are getting worse, but although CASES are at a similar level to back then - we are actually in a much much better position now
 

1finny

Well-known member
#67
I liked this video as a comparison between now and back in March:


I am very much on the side of we need to be careful, take precautions, this isn't over... however it is worth pointing out the disingenuous way the current number of cases are being reported - whether or not this is deliberate to generate clicks, or just because we are uninformed in general, I'm not sure.

Things are getting worse, but although CASES are at a similar level to back then - we are actually in a much much better position now
Interesting that Matt - interesting analysis
'no red lights but can't be complacent' - seems reasonable if we want to be optimistic
time will tell
 

Liamo

Well-known member
#68
Lockdown - pointless and, indeed, could backfire with higher excess deaths than necessary this winter.
Just as a counterpoint to this, a Columbia University study that has just come out, provides evidence that the lockdown in New York City reduced the spread of Covid-19 by 70%.

It also states that:
The new study is in line with previous modeling studies estimating that lockdowns reduced COVID-19 transmission by 58 percent in Wuhan, China, 45 percent in Italy, and 77 [percent] in France.
Lockdown led to 70% Covid reduction in NYC
 
#69
I saw a video the other day that compared deaths in care homes to deaths in hospitals and deaths at home. The guy was saying deaths in hospitals were well down but “ alarmingly” deaths at home were up 🤦🏼‍♂️ The guy completely glossed over the fact that millions of people have probably spent more time at home this year than at any other time in their lives. Statistics are what you make of them and how you interpret them. Covid would have a 100% fatality rate if you only tested people that died of it.
 
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1finny

Well-known member
#70
I saw a video the other day that compared deaths in care homes to deaths in hospitals and deaths at home. The guy was saying deaths in hospitals were well down but “ alarmingly” deaths at home were up 🤦🏼‍♂️ The guy completely glossed over the fact that millions of people have probably spent more time at home this year than at any other time in their lives. Statistics are what you make of them and how you interpret them. Covid would have a 100% fatality rate if you only tested people that died of it.
The wonderful (if that’s the right word) thing about all this is the contrary evidence messing with our minds.
I’m taking the view that this could go pear shaped or the worst could be over o_O
Also, I’m hopeful we will have a much better view (in either direction) in a few weeks time.
 
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